The job interview seemed to go well until I busted out the AR15

[Louisiana Carry]

LOL

I interviewed a guy for another full time position yesterday. It was a rolling interview (I picked him up and brought him with me to do a couple things, since I was very busy). I warned him right off that me and my guys are gun nuts- I am, well, me; and my lead carpenter is a former Olympic shooting sports qualifier and ran a gun shop for years, etc.)

He seemed to feel like I would be a great guy to work for, and I was willing to give him a chance. I had already TOLD him I was a CCWer and that I had an AR in the truck, but I guess it didn't sink in. He's former .mil, but also from Chicago. Anyway, before I dropped him back off the conversation turned back to guns for a moment, and I showed him my EBR behind the seats. Mine, as some may know, is all tricked out with a laser and custom trigger and quad-rail and tactical mods). Anyway, he was like "Is that thing LOADED?" I said, "Well, it would be an awfully inefficient club if it weren't."

So after that, his tone switched to "Let me think about it," and "I'll give you a call."



Better to find out up front, though. 40% of our conversations on my crew are about guns, gun rights, legislation or when we are going to the range. Easier to just scare them off right away.

 

[chris in va]

He probably didn't know what an AR was.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Years ago, I was taking graduate courses from Georgia State at Fort Benning. The classes were held in Building 4 (the principal instructional building and post headquarters.)

One night I was assigned as Officer of the Day -- which required me to be in uniform, with brassard and .45.

The classroom was just down the hall from the duty station, so I told the Field Officer of the Day I had a class, and would be down the hall for a couple of hours -- he could send the NCO for me if he needed me.

I walked into the classroom and the professor said, "Is that thing loaded?"

And I said, "What kind of a fool would carry an empty gun?"

 

[brighamr]

I always thought a thorough interview would include a trip to the range... could tell you alot about a potential candidate (Does he/she know safety? Does he/she take their time and make shots count or just blast away for fun? etc)

 

[Marbles]

At the range once.

A gentleman puts his bayonet on his Mosin-Nagant evil which looked fantastic. His girlfriend (apparently) was there, I observed her popping off a 10/22, but not much else.

"Are you going to fight somebody?" she asked as he put it on. "No, I don't wanna fight anybody here."

 

[Louisiana Carry]

My last guy I interviewed at the range. He's my best worker.

 

[Water-Man]

It might not have been the gun but rather your actions.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Usually the reverse is true when I apply and interview for a job. I play down my gun hobby and tell them I like to fish instead (which is true, but not the whole truth). One exception was with the boss who had a small decorative display of several rifle cartridges (including a .223 WSSM) on his desk.

 

[mindwip]

Louisiana Carry, do you need an IT tech i think you might!, i will send you my resume right now. No AR in your back seat will scare me, unless its pointed at me...


wahoo a interview thats easy talk about guns and how you like them, and of course say how great ARs are

 

[strambo]

That's sweet! Is the position still open?

 

[Lady with a Gun]

One time, I let it slip that a friend (retired LEO) had said if anyone tried to carjack me, they would get shot.

The immediate question was, "Do you have a gun in the car?"

"Why, Yes" I replied.

That was followed by, "Is it loaded?"

I couldn't help my self, replying, "It wouldn't be much good, if it wasn't.", which was followed by a macabre laugh.

 

[Eric F]

you may have antimidated a perfectly good worker and maybe even a non-anti away.

When I first meet some one and all they do is guns guns guns it kinda makes me wonder. This person may have even been pushed to the anti camp now because of what I can only discribe as over zelous behavior.

How can you trust this guy to whom you just met? Now there is a guy on the loose that knows you have an ar behind the seat. You have made your own security risk. What was your motivation behind talking and showing off your stuff? I use to wonder why folks on here say concealed means concealed but now I see why.

 

[Louisiana Carry]

Most of the time I do not carry concealed, so obviously I am not one of those people.

I'll make my choices, you make your choices, save the lectures for your kids.

 

[Eric F]

Sorry I was not trying to lecture prehaps I was being over zelous with my post. it is tough to hire good help and a gun lover in the same person add to that a personality conflict ect and it gets really tough.

Most folks I think try to keep ccw to themselves and those who dont probably should. I have a brother that is destined to jail because he has to show off to the whole world he has a gun there fore he is a tough guy. I guess I might be a bit oversensitive to this subject.

 

[bannockburn]

Louisiana Carry

I don't know if that's the way I would handle an interview with a prospective employee. I mean, sure it would be alright to discuss hobbies and other interests, but to actually start a show and tell session with a relative stranger does not seem to me to be a good interviewing technique. Consider his perspective; he may not be as avid a gun person as you are, he may even be relatively indifferent to guns; yet he has this potential employer (who he has just met), showing him a loaded tricked out AR he carries around in his truck. Might have been a little over the top for someone who doesn't share your passion for firearms.

 

[.45&TKD]

What type of job/industry are we talking about?

 

[Louisiana Carry]

http://atimetobuild.com

Anyway, I have to live in close proximity with whomever I hire for the bulk of my waking hours. There are many more people out there wanting work from an honest employer than there are positions I have to fill. I am not worried about it. I neither came here to complain or get advice. I was just sharing. Reckon I will go back to ar15.com where I get more laid back conversation. No hard feelings- carry on.

 

[.45&TKD]

Louisiana Carry,

In the case of a close knit social environment as well as employment, it's probably better that you were yourself. Most people are more detached from their employment situations, which probably accounts for some of the lack of understanding in this thread.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Threeband]

The construction/home improvement world is refreshingly different from the Cubical World with which many today are more familiar.

No "Human Resources", often no written applications, or other paperwork. "Interview" is a pretty formal word for the sort of casual conversation that gets your foot in the door. The REAL interview occurs on the job.

In a lot of ways, it's more like the Good Old Days than the Brave New World.

My currant job, I talked to the company owner a couple times on the phone, then swung by his house to talk to him. Saw some NRA literature on his coffee table: turns out he's a Life Member. "Yes," he says, "I believe it's important to support the NRA."

Well, he passed MY interview!

 

[4v50 Gary]

Heckuva way to screen out employees. If I had the skills to be a carpenter, I'd like to work for you.

 

[Catherine]

Interesting...

I used to talk about MY swimming, music, books, politics, religion, boating under sail and power, camping, museums, art, movies, dance, travel, house design, etc. and that WAS OK with some folks!

SOME did not want to hear about guns! It did not matter what political party that they were in because they were not constitutional folks!

If you TALK TOO MUCH about firearms to some people ANYWHERE unless it is a place like this forum or your gun nut friends... MOST people think that that you (Meaning me.) are TOO MUCH of a GUN ZEALOT to THEM!

I have found the same EXACT thing when you discuss and/or DEBATE people in THE RKBA ISSUE and your Constitutional rights that we have and that are being SHREDDED on a daily basis in the District of Criminals!

I think that it depends on what some people think of another person. To some people we are ZEALOTS in PRO GUN, self defense, hunting if you hunt and in CONSTITUTIONAL issues! (Or being accused by some people because I wrote/spoke about our Constitution TOO MUCH. Ha ha! Oh well.)

Yet, THEY can worship and participate in any other hobby in ANY subject matter including all sports, glued to the tv, movies, etc. and THAT IS OK and not considered being SUBVERSIVE OR A ZEALOT!

Go figure!

Best wishes on finding a good worker/employee.

Catherine

 

[CZ223]

Lead Cabinet Maker/Finish Carpenter

Qualifications
15 years experience building high end custom cabinetry
7 years experience in the related fields of homebuilding and finish carpentry
Self employed as a custom cabinet maker for 6 years
Adept at problem solving
Layout and design experience
Dependable, punctual and self motivated
Able to take projects from design to completion
Devotion to quality and customer satisfaction
Large inventory of tools
Work Truck F-250 with cap
Enclosed 16 foot trailer for hauling tools and materials
Large and varied inventory of guns

 

[bsf]

It would be nice to find employment that was 2A friendly. Too bad you do not need an electrician, electrical engineer, robotics technician, or factory automation/controls technician.

 

[griz312000]

Kind of along the same lines..In my police uniform, carrying a cocked and locked 1911, I was approached by a concerned citizen..."Do you know your gun is cocked?" "Yes, sir." "Well, isn't that awfully dangerous?" "Isn't it supposed to be?"

 

[sadlsor]

To answer a couple of these questions along the lines of "Who in their right mind would carry an unloaded weapon?"

Well, in my experience, the USN. Yep, that's right. I joined in '75, left in '80. I was appalled to learn that, once assigned to my boat on the nuke submarine base, the topside watch was instructed to carry a Colt .45 duty pistol, and 2 mags. But nothing IN the gun! Un-believable. Posted to secure a multi-hundred-million-dollar nuclear submarine, with an unloaded weapon.

Topside watch was the only guy on the pier at night, guarding the gangway to the hatch. The below-decks watch was the only other soul awake in the middle of the night - and he was armed with a web belt carrying (drumroll please)... a nightstick. (Call it a police baton - same thing. It was a stick.)

Now bear in mind the timeframe mentioned above - surely things have changed by now. Weapons quallification, conducted annually on subs, was to rotate guys up to the sail area (highest point on the boat while surfaced), hand them an M14 with 10 rounds loaded, and have them shoot at the waves. No, not female sailors, but the swells that occur naturally out in the ocean. The guys would pray for a seagull or something to shoot at, but we'd be too far out. OK, you emptied a mag. You're good for a year. Next!

Guess I got my first clue in boot camp, where we practiced the 16-count manual at arms with M14s that had the magwells and muzzles soldered shut. But that was the Navy, and that was then.