The myth on not saving when hand loading 9mm ammo.
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WestKentucky
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I have seen quality of goods drop significantly over the last several years. When it comes to ammo specifically I have seen more wierd stuff than ever before being posted. Upside down primer, sideways primer, no flash hole, overcharge, squib, long, short, no crimp, cracked, etc… I can control all of that myself. Add to that that nobody knows how much of anything I have and there’s a little more peace of mind. I’m no conspiracy guy but I do believe that there are markers that flag people for scrutiny and high volume ammo purchases would likely be one of those. I also enjoy the time spent loading so there’s that to factor in as well.
hey - stop giving companies ideas .. lol
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I have not rolled 9mm for a LONG time since its just too cheap and easy to buy BUT, I do keep the stuff to do so "just in case". ALL shooters should both know how and keep supplies for what they like to shoot. Supplies will outlive you stored properly. Sooner or later we will have another shortage and if its bad enough having the stuff to roll will be REAL nice.
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I think the OP miscalculated the cost of store bought ammo.
The spreadsheet says - $25.99 for 50 & 52c per round. That is not the price today. A lot of places will sell you some 9mm(delivered) for 259/1000 = $13/50 = 26c per round. You can likely find some better deals if you have the energy to look.
The spreadsheet says - $25.99 for 50 & 52c per round. That is not the price today. A lot of places will sell you some 9mm(delivered) for 259/1000 = $13/50 = 26c per round. You can likely find some better deals if you have the energy to look.
I am one of the guys that enjoys my time at the reloading bench as much as my time at the shooting bench. Or shooting range whichever do you prefer. my 9 mm handloads would shoot the core six.
After that, only variable being the ammunition, factory stuff opened up quite substantially.
Now, if I was to compare it to premium factory stuff that’s a little more difficult. But it’s also not cheap. At all!
After that, only variable being the ammunition, factory stuff opened up quite substantially.
Now, if I was to compare it to premium factory stuff that’s a little more difficult. But it’s also not cheap. At all!
stoney1666
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was at a local store today and they were selling 9mm for $9.95 per and a guy was there bought a case for $199.
MarshallDodge
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I use WSF in 9mm, currently $240 for 8 pounds at PV, .015 cpr.I can get 9mm range ammo for $10-$12 for a box of 50 rounds. That is out the door including tax. Thats 20-24 cents per round. I haven't seen $30 powder in a long time, it's closer to $50-$60 per pound.
This is 30 cents/round buying from Midway.
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The local indoor range sells it for $10/box if you spend $10 for an hour of range time. No limit on ammo. Another gun shop sells it for $12/box OTD. It would cost me more to load for 9mm or 223 than I can buy it.
I handload for my centerfire big game cartridges. I don't do it to save money, but to get more accurate ammo using premium bullets and I can often pick up a bit more speed compared to factory ammo costing about the same.
I have a source of primers for .06ea but am still running on pre covid .02ea.
Bullets are .085 ea.
That said, 9mm is currently costing me .12cpr, which is about half of what I can buy it for.
All that said, I load 9mm because I get to make it exactly the way I like it for my guns. It is more accurate than the cheap stuff, and takes me less than an hour to load 500 rounds.
I hate it, but I just do it. I like to shoot, and the math on it still works out. When the math no longer works out? Yeah, I guess Ill have to figure something else out.
.308 Norma
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Well, I prefer my rocking chair, tortilla chips, and watching Suzanne Pleshette (in Bob Newhart re-runs). But I prefer spending my "precious time" reloading to all three of those things. Besides, I learned long ago that I can prime cases while sitting in front of the TV with a hot cup of coffee by my side.when I hear "my time is worth so much more than I would save by reloading" I picture a dude sitting on his couch, eating potato chips, watching Charlie's Angels re-runs.
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When my young neighbors say their time is too valuable to spend mowing, I ask what they are doing instead. We compare costs—my mower is at least $750 and fuel and my time. They pay $100/week to a mowing service to save those costs and their valuable time.
That’s really the only reason I even mention time in the cost of reloading context. Well that and to stir the pot.
That’s really the only reason I even mention time in the cost of reloading context. Well that and to stir the pot.
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How much do you charge yourself to breathe?
Just think about how much money you can save if you stopped?
MarshallDodge
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You forget to mention the gym membership for $75 month
CQB45ACP
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Yes but I doubt it’s only $75.You forget to mention the gym membership for $75 month
CQB45ACP
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I include it in overhead. But seriously, I just started using a CPAP machine and breathing is not as easy anymore.How much do you charge yourself to breathe?
Just think about how much money you can save if you stopped?
This is exactly my thinking on why I reload 9mm,I just go a little slower on my LCT press. My rounds using RMR's 124 MW are alot more accurate than cheap manufactured ones. The more expensive a rounds like 357 or 45 auto,reloads are half of what Factory ammo is. I'm retired,so time dose not come into the equation. Some of my other hobbies are way/were more wallet draining.
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And this is why reloading supplies are at the bottom of every manufacturing list. We’re the cheapest skinflints in the market place. Vista is way better off sending primers and powder to ammo plants because there’s no way they are going to make a penny off this bunch. QED.
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dobedo
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It is a hobby their no taxes on your labor. Do you tax yourself when taking a dump?
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dobedo
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It is when you are loading 147 gr HPs.
Cheesemaker
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Your OP said nothing about bullet weight and HPs. And, 147 FMJ is not much more than I said....I could make a story about boutique ammo...
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Where are you getting 147gr HP projectiles for $0.08/round, as you listed in your spreadsheet?
If you are talking about effective 147gr HP's they start at about $0.20/projectile (not including shipping or taxes) for Hornady XTP which is about the cheapest HP that expands.
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dobedo
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3 years ago, I purchased 3500 Rainer 147 grain plated HPs from a dealer who was going out of business for $278.00. The cheapest place to get 147 gr HPs now is X-treme bullets for 106.00 per 1000
My time isn't as valuable as some folks, and I don't do side work any more, meaning I have plenty of time to load the amount of ammo I shoot,
which isn't nearly as much as some of you pistoleros out there, so I also don't factor in my time.
I reload 9MM to tailor my ammo to my wants, and it is cheaper as far as money laid out.
which isn't nearly as much as some of you pistoleros out there, so I also don't factor in my time.
I reload 9MM to tailor my ammo to my wants, and it is cheaper as far as money laid out.
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Glad I'm not the only one who looks at it this way!
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