El Rojo
Member
Ok, I posted this in the Legal and Political forum, but I need yalls technical response. Here is the idea.
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An alternative to the California .50 BMG ban. (NOT JUNK MAIL!)
Hey guys and gals, I just was browsing my usual hangout www.thehighroad.org
and I came up with a brilliant idea. The California .50 BMG ban says this,
12278. (a) As used in this chapter, a ".50 BMG rifle" means a
center fire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not
already an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276, 12276.1, or
12276.5, or a machinegun, as defined in Section 12200.
(b) As used in this chapter, a ".50 BMG cartridge" means a
cartridge that is designed and intended to be fired from a center
fire rifle and that meets all of the following criteria:
(1) It has an overall length of 5.54 inches from the base to the
tip of the bullet.
(2) The bullet diameter for the cartridge is from .510 to, and
including, .511 inch.
(3) The case base diameter for the cartridge is from .800 inch to,
and including, .804 inch.
(4) The cartridge case length is 3.91 inches.
So here is what I am thinking. If you have a rifle cartridge that has an
overall length (OAL) less than 5.54 inches, it is no longer considered a .50
BMG by this new California law. So basically you get some .50 BMG ammo
manufacturers to seat the bullet a tenth of an inch deeper or longer and
viola, it is no longer banned! Now the new name of the cartridge wasn't
originally my idea, but I like it enough this is what we ought to name the
new round. .50 FUCA. It doesn't mean anything, it is just a neat name
pronounced (foo ka). So you get the .50 FUCA manufacturers to stamp on
the side of their guns ".50 FUCA" and there you go, firearms enthusiasts
still can have .50 calibers in California. Now if for some reason a person
would have a problem with the cool name FUCA, we call it the .50 Feinstein
or pick some other wonderful left wing, gun hating politician to stick their
name on our cool new rifle, all in their honor. Or we could call it the .50
Freedom or the .50 California.
If everyone just calls the new round .50 FUCA (or whatever we decide) and
the ammo is labeled .50 FUCA and the guns are labeled .50 FUCA, there is no
more need to have a .50 BMG. I would think if the manufacturers made this
gun relatively cheap, we could sell them like hotcakes in California.
Suddenly more people have .50 caliber rifles in California than they ever
did before the .50 BMG ban. If you like my idea, let me know. I don't know
who to really talk to about it so I basically am e-mailing this to everyone
linked to the Fifty Caliber Shooter's Association. If you think someone else
ought to have a copy, please forward it on. Lets make this happen!
El Rojo
Taft, CA
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A slight modification to the .50 FUCA round.
Ok, a good point has been brought up.
12278. (a) As used in this chapter, a ".50 BMG rifle" means a
center fire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not
already an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276, 12276.1, or
12276.5, or a machinegun, as defined in Section 12200.
So if we simply change the OAL, the gun can still fire a .50 BMG and we are still stuck. So not being a .50 BMG owner, can we shorten the neck length enough on the .50 FUCA just enough where a .50 BMG round will not allow the bolt to close, but the .50 FUCA can? I mean we would have had to make new brass with the .50 FUCA headstamp on it anyway, so no big deal right? I am telling you, these things will sell like hot cakes. Make them cheap enough, people will be buying them up like crazy. Make them whatever price you want, people will still buy them.
El Rojo
Taft, CA
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I sent those two e-mails to everyone on the FCSA website, the FCSA, and the NSSF. Forget strategy or politics, just comment on the technical aspects of such a round and if you think it will meet the new PRK law. I am excited about this. And of course the .50 FUCA's name came from our very own Brad Johnson.
**********************************************************
An alternative to the California .50 BMG ban. (NOT JUNK MAIL!)
Hey guys and gals, I just was browsing my usual hangout www.thehighroad.org
and I came up with a brilliant idea. The California .50 BMG ban says this,
12278. (a) As used in this chapter, a ".50 BMG rifle" means a
center fire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not
already an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276, 12276.1, or
12276.5, or a machinegun, as defined in Section 12200.
(b) As used in this chapter, a ".50 BMG cartridge" means a
cartridge that is designed and intended to be fired from a center
fire rifle and that meets all of the following criteria:
(1) It has an overall length of 5.54 inches from the base to the
tip of the bullet.
(2) The bullet diameter for the cartridge is from .510 to, and
including, .511 inch.
(3) The case base diameter for the cartridge is from .800 inch to,
and including, .804 inch.
(4) The cartridge case length is 3.91 inches.
So here is what I am thinking. If you have a rifle cartridge that has an
overall length (OAL) less than 5.54 inches, it is no longer considered a .50
BMG by this new California law. So basically you get some .50 BMG ammo
manufacturers to seat the bullet a tenth of an inch deeper or longer and
viola, it is no longer banned! Now the new name of the cartridge wasn't
originally my idea, but I like it enough this is what we ought to name the
new round. .50 FUCA. It doesn't mean anything, it is just a neat name
pronounced (foo ka). So you get the .50 FUCA manufacturers to stamp on
the side of their guns ".50 FUCA" and there you go, firearms enthusiasts
still can have .50 calibers in California. Now if for some reason a person
would have a problem with the cool name FUCA, we call it the .50 Feinstein
or pick some other wonderful left wing, gun hating politician to stick their
name on our cool new rifle, all in their honor. Or we could call it the .50
Freedom or the .50 California.
If everyone just calls the new round .50 FUCA (or whatever we decide) and
the ammo is labeled .50 FUCA and the guns are labeled .50 FUCA, there is no
more need to have a .50 BMG. I would think if the manufacturers made this
gun relatively cheap, we could sell them like hotcakes in California.
Suddenly more people have .50 caliber rifles in California than they ever
did before the .50 BMG ban. If you like my idea, let me know. I don't know
who to really talk to about it so I basically am e-mailing this to everyone
linked to the Fifty Caliber Shooter's Association. If you think someone else
ought to have a copy, please forward it on. Lets make this happen!
El Rojo
Taft, CA
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A slight modification to the .50 FUCA round.
Ok, a good point has been brought up.
12278. (a) As used in this chapter, a ".50 BMG rifle" means a
center fire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not
already an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276, 12276.1, or
12276.5, or a machinegun, as defined in Section 12200.
So if we simply change the OAL, the gun can still fire a .50 BMG and we are still stuck. So not being a .50 BMG owner, can we shorten the neck length enough on the .50 FUCA just enough where a .50 BMG round will not allow the bolt to close, but the .50 FUCA can? I mean we would have had to make new brass with the .50 FUCA headstamp on it anyway, so no big deal right? I am telling you, these things will sell like hot cakes. Make them cheap enough, people will be buying them up like crazy. Make them whatever price you want, people will still buy them.
El Rojo
Taft, CA
**********************************************************
I sent those two e-mails to everyone on the FCSA website, the FCSA, and the NSSF. Forget strategy or politics, just comment on the technical aspects of such a round and if you think it will meet the new PRK law. I am excited about this. And of course the .50 FUCA's name came from our very own Brad Johnson.