That's an excellent description of the PA63. The double action trigger pull makes most double action triggers on revolvers feel nice. The PA63 is a very close copy of the Walther pistol for sure. I still have mine though I don't shoot it much anymore. It is the last commie pistol in my collection now. I'm sure that I could double or triple my money if I wanted to sell it right now. I think I gave $125 after taxes for it.
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That's an excellent description of the PA63. The double action trigger pull makes most double action triggers on revolvers feel nice. The PA63 is a very close copy of the Walther pistol for sure. I still have mine though I don't shoot it much anymore. It is the last commie pistol in my collection now. I'm sure that I could double or triple my money if I wanted to sell it right now. I think I gave $125 after taxes for it.
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AMT Backup. It fit the purpose at the time but it was a pain to deal with sometimes. Very ammo picky and quite heavy for a single stack 380. And it was a bear to take apart. Almost as bad as a Seecamp 32.
Taurus TCP. Drastic upgrade to the AMT in terms of weight, but it jammed far more.
Seecamp 32. Had it maybe a week before trading it off.
Glock 42. My one and only personally owned Glock. Was nothing special and sold it for more than double what I paid for it.
Keltec P3AT. This gun gave me jams I have never seen nor heard of before. One time I fired it, instead of ejecting the brass out the side, it got pushed part way down the barrel. Never put another round in after that, got rid of it.
S&W Bodyguard. Trigger was well over 15 pounds. Sent it in to get it fixed, they sent it back 2 months later with no change.
Looking back on this list all my good riddance handguns were tiny pocket guns. Interesting.
Taurus TCP. Drastic upgrade to the AMT in terms of weight, but it jammed far more.
Seecamp 32. Had it maybe a week before trading it off.
Glock 42. My one and only personally owned Glock. Was nothing special and sold it for more than double what I paid for it.
Keltec P3AT. This gun gave me jams I have never seen nor heard of before. One time I fired it, instead of ejecting the brass out the side, it got pushed part way down the barrel. Never put another round in after that, got rid of it.
S&W Bodyguard. Trigger was well over 15 pounds. Sent it in to get it fixed, they sent it back 2 months later with no change.
Looking back on this list all my good riddance handguns were tiny pocket guns. Interesting.
CapnMac
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Hmm, moderately short list (possibly thankfully short).
Universal Carbine (and a mutt version at that)
The AMT Hardballer I turned into an SC 03A3.
A Taurus 945 that would have been ok, had the factory drilled the hammer safety pins the 0.01mm more accurately than they did (three trips back to discover that, finally, which was one trip too many).
And, I generally have no regrets about the American Arms SAA clone, either.
Universal Carbine (and a mutt version at that)
The AMT Hardballer I turned into an SC 03A3.
A Taurus 945 that would have been ok, had the factory drilled the hammer safety pins the 0.01mm more accurately than they did (three trips back to discover that, finally, which was one trip too many).
And, I generally have no regrets about the American Arms SAA clone, either.
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Traded a Hi-point 9mm to a friend for a SW MP 15-22. Traded 4 more Hi-point pistols toward my CZ 457. Got more for them that i paid. No issues with them. They weren't being shot anymore. Because i have other handguns i use more often. I do not miss them either. I sold a Kel-tec PF9. Due to the slide bite. Traded my AR 22'S Towards some Vintage Rifles and hand guns. And sold one other AR 22 to a friend.
My first TCP was great. It was stolen and never recovered so I replaced it with an identical model that broke on the FIRST shot. The ejector sheared in half. Repaired and sold.
I tried a gen 1 LCP and was disgusted with it. Unreliable and uncomfortable. Flipped it fast.
bassjam
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I've gotten rid of 13 firearms and I don't miss any of them. Most I just let go because I didn't "love" but they were perfectly fine. The one I didn't even like was a Glock 23 though. I never could get used to the grip angle so it naturally pointed high for me (similar to a SP101 I also got rid of) but that really wasn't the reason I got rid of it. It had a nasty habit of splitting spent brass getting really stuck in the chamber. After the 3rd time using a dowel rod to clear the gun I decided it just wasn't for me. I also had an Advantage Arms .22 kit for it that wasn't as accurate as I'd hope it'd be, sold it with the gun.
Howland937
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Limiting to handguns only...
1- Colt Defender that I paid decent money for, that was never right from the time I got it. Shop it came from took care of me on it.
2- Springfield Armory V10 UC. Loved everything about it until I shot it in the twilight. Like a camera flash, and couldn't see for 5-10 seconds.
3- some little Taurus .22 semi auto with fake pearl grips. It got choked up on every ammo I tried with it.
1- Colt Defender that I paid decent money for, that was never right from the time I got it. Shop it came from took care of me on it.
2- Springfield Armory V10 UC. Loved everything about it until I shot it in the twilight. Like a camera flash, and couldn't see for 5-10 seconds.
3- some little Taurus .22 semi auto with fake pearl grips. It got choked up on every ammo I tried with it.
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Handgun wise...
FEG PA-63: Had one of each in different calibers, 9x18 Makarov, and .380 ACP. Shot decently, atrocious trigger pull, and hurting the web of my hand, no thank you.
Bulgarian Makarov: I never learn. Had two of them, several years apart. Solid gun, abit heavy. Worse was trying to take them down, bugger and a half putting that darn slide on correctly!
Colt Official Police: Never took a liking to it for some reason.
Every single-action revolver: Never fit my hands, triggers were so light. Heavy, cumbersome, not to my liking.
Norinco 213 in 9mm: Darn accurate pistol, fit my hand perfectly. Kicking empties into my noggin every single time, bye bye!
Glock 30: It was ok. Tried to like it, but didn't like the sharp edges.
S&W 908: Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, jumpy in the hand.
FEG PA-63: Had one of each in different calibers, 9x18 Makarov, and .380 ACP. Shot decently, atrocious trigger pull, and hurting the web of my hand, no thank you.
Bulgarian Makarov: I never learn. Had two of them, several years apart. Solid gun, abit heavy. Worse was trying to take them down, bugger and a half putting that darn slide on correctly!
Colt Official Police: Never took a liking to it for some reason.
Every single-action revolver: Never fit my hands, triggers were so light. Heavy, cumbersome, not to my liking.
Norinco 213 in 9mm: Darn accurate pistol, fit my hand perfectly. Kicking empties into my noggin every single time, bye bye!
Glock 30: It was ok. Tried to like it, but didn't like the sharp edges.
S&W 908: Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, jumpy in the hand.
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Manhurin PPK/s. Not reliable, felt lousy in my hand and started doubling on me. Sent it packing, with full disclosure, and never looked back.
K&K USP .45. Fat grip with a very spongy and vague trigger action. Couldn’t get used to the sight picture. Sold it and an AR variant and used the proceeds to buy plane tickets to London for my girlfriend (now wife) and me.
A Bubbaed S&W Victory .38 S&W. My first Gun Broker misfire, it was sold as a blued 2” Model 10 .38 Spl. Upon picking it up I found it to be a poorly polished and blued .38/200 Victory that had an industrial cheese scraper used to hog out the chambers to .38 Spl length. I bought a used .38 Spl cylinder on eBay, had it fitted and timed by a friend and sold it right away at about $100 loss.
Other than these three handguns, and a few rifles and shotguns as well over the years, all the other guns I’ve sold I came to regret.
Stay safe.
K&K USP .45. Fat grip with a very spongy and vague trigger action. Couldn’t get used to the sight picture. Sold it and an AR variant and used the proceeds to buy plane tickets to London for my girlfriend (now wife) and me.
A Bubbaed S&W Victory .38 S&W. My first Gun Broker misfire, it was sold as a blued 2” Model 10 .38 Spl. Upon picking it up I found it to be a poorly polished and blued .38/200 Victory that had an industrial cheese scraper used to hog out the chambers to .38 Spl length. I bought a used .38 Spl cylinder on eBay, had it fitted and timed by a friend and sold it right away at about $100 loss.
Other than these three handguns, and a few rifles and shotguns as well over the years, all the other guns I’ve sold I came to regret.
Stay safe.
FL-NC
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I bought lots of ill-advised guns over the years. Some that come to mind: Targa 25 auto, several snub 38 revolvers, Ruger LC9, Glock 43, Beretta 92 (never liked it, but owned it for training purposes in the mil), Auto Ordnance 1911.
Choctaw
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I've had four Colts; three 1911s and one AR-15. I don't regret letting any of those guns go. I am not a Colt fan.
.308 Norma
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LOL!I had one Dan Wesson revolver. I don't regret letting it go. All it took was one Dan Wesson revolver to teach me I'm not a Dan Wesson fan.
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An S&W M59. Bought it because as a Browning HP owner I was a firm believer in the Wonder Nine. Didn't like the aluminum frame, sold it after 2 years. Bought an M659 in 1985-still have it.
Was enamored of the Colt Cobra, finally got to shoot one-same thing. I have 2 Detective Specials.
Was enamored of the Colt Cobra, finally got to shoot one-same thing. I have 2 Detective Specials.
whughett
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A Glock Model 21, paid premium dollars the day my Local FFL could get ahold of one decades ago. Could not group lead reloads in it. Laid in the safe for a decade until I dumped it at a gun show in Florida.
Also a GI issued 1911 back in the 70’s. Could not hit a barn door from inside the barn with it.
Could go on with a Ruger 44 Magnum Carbine but this is the pistol forum.
Also a GI issued 1911 back in the 70’s. Could not hit a barn door from inside the barn with it.
Could go on with a Ruger 44 Magnum Carbine but this is the pistol forum.
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Detonics Pocket 9. Lousy trigger. Painful to shoot. Painful to disassemble. Never ending magazine and feeding issues. Nasty tendency to eject the magazine on any given shot. Sold it for more than I paid for it with full disclosure of it's issues. Someone else's grief now!
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At the peak of my gun trading days I ended up with three almost identical Savage .308s. I had a desperately poor friend at the time who confided in me that he'd saved up enough money to buy himself a hunting rifle (I had no idea he was interested in such things) but felt bad about spending it, as nearly every penny of his income went toward medical bills for his seriously ill wife. I said "Hell, I've got three of these damn things just sitting around. Why don't you come pick one out?". He still has it, and I certainly don't regret giving it to him.
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DAO sp101. I tried dedicating myself to the platform for ccw but the trigger never felt good and it was so stiff out of the box that the action locked up (rust on the internals). It was traded towards a gp100 3" that I loved the look and feel of but also couldn't shoot worth a darn. Sold for an imperceptible loss that became a CZ Scorpion. No regrets there except the insatiable desire to endlessly mod the Scorpion.
The DAO sp101 was replaced by a Ruger LCR that became an out of the box success for me. It stings, but I could shoot it better the first time than my sp101 the last time. My wife still has a standard sp101 but I'm over it.
I gave away a NIB Rem 597 and a bucket of ammo that wasn't regrettable. It went to a good owner. I sold a vintage Ruger 10/22 to a friend but only because he wouldn't accept it for free so my heart doesn't hang heavily on it. He got a very nice price and I still enjoy shooting it while visiting.
Cz-82 was sold without regrets. It's a nice pistol with a surprisingly nice trigger but outmoded. Can't decide if my Makarov is much different. It's conceivably a better carry gun (which it will never be) but the trigger is lousy, the capacity is unimpressive, and the ballistics are marginal for such a heavy gun. It's nice in the collection but it could become my next no regret sale. It sure shoots pretty straight if you can get over the DA trigger at least.
*Edit* I also sold a Ruger LCP after taking it to the range once. A surprisingly poor gun in my hands considering their popularity.
The DAO sp101 was replaced by a Ruger LCR that became an out of the box success for me. It stings, but I could shoot it better the first time than my sp101 the last time. My wife still has a standard sp101 but I'm over it.
I gave away a NIB Rem 597 and a bucket of ammo that wasn't regrettable. It went to a good owner. I sold a vintage Ruger 10/22 to a friend but only because he wouldn't accept it for free so my heart doesn't hang heavily on it. He got a very nice price and I still enjoy shooting it while visiting.
Cz-82 was sold without regrets. It's a nice pistol with a surprisingly nice trigger but outmoded. Can't decide if my Makarov is much different. It's conceivably a better carry gun (which it will never be) but the trigger is lousy, the capacity is unimpressive, and the ballistics are marginal for such a heavy gun. It's nice in the collection but it could become my next no regret sale. It sure shoots pretty straight if you can get over the DA trigger at least.
*Edit* I also sold a Ruger LCP after taking it to the range once. A surprisingly poor gun in my hands considering their popularity.
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Gladius
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Smith & Wesson/Walther PPK -- Never shot it, and after handling it, I never wanted to (it was uncomfortable just to hold). The blued finished was a joke (as has been my experience with most recent S&W bluing). I bought it as a "place holder" in my collection because I just had to have a PPK. Now I have a couple "real" PPK's and so the Smith & Walther went bye bye.
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A Walther P22. Every time the gun fired, the slide did not fully return, it stayed open about a half an inch. In addition, when cleaning the gun, corkscrew shaped lead strips would come out of the barrel from the grooves. In addition, a 22lr bronze brush would get stuck in the barrel.
Sent it back to Walther (Smith & Wesson was handling their US customer service issues at the time) with the corkscrew lead strips advising them that the barrel diameter was drilled too small for 22lr bullets. They returned it back to me and said there was nothing wrong with the gun. Sold the gun after they returned it. No regret.
Purchased two Ruger SR22s since then which have been flawless.
Sent it back to Walther (Smith & Wesson was handling their US customer service issues at the time) with the corkscrew lead strips advising them that the barrel diameter was drilled too small for 22lr bullets. They returned it back to me and said there was nothing wrong with the gun. Sold the gun after they returned it. No regret.
Purchased two Ruger SR22s since then which have been flawless.
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velocette
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Surprised that no-one called out the Sig Mosquito, .22 LR pistol. They were not made by Sig but Sig marketed them. Spent almost a year
trying to make one reliable. Finally got it to run fairly well but still never flawless, or even close. Sold it at a loss and bought a Smith & Wesson M&P Compact.22 that runs anything and everything
I can stuff in it.
trying to make one reliable. Finally got it to run fairly well but still never flawless, or even close. Sold it at a loss and bought a Smith & Wesson M&P Compact.22 that runs anything and everything
I can stuff in it.
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Stoegar Cougar- Don't need a 40 S&W
Browning Buckmark- Don't care about 22lr in a pistol
FNP45- Jammed. Fixed the issue, but never trusted it.
Bond Arms Snake Slayer 4- Impractical
HK 45 - Garbage trigger.
Wilson/Beretta Brig Tac- My CZ Shadow II and CZC AO1-LD are way better shooters for me.
S&W 642- Just not fun and really not better than a pocket 9mm IMO.
Browning Buckmark- Don't care about 22lr in a pistol
FNP45- Jammed. Fixed the issue, but never trusted it.
Bond Arms Snake Slayer 4- Impractical
HK 45 - Garbage trigger.
Wilson/Beretta Brig Tac- My CZ Shadow II and CZC AO1-LD are way better shooters for me.
S&W 642- Just not fun and really not better than a pocket 9mm IMO.
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Reading threads like this is why I don’t buy used hand guns or rifles
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