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About them using the low ready. I was under the impression the the low ready was a square range type of thing because a negligent discharge would go safely into the ground rather than with a high ready which would result in a bullet going over the backstop. But in an apartment building, there is no safe direction for a negligent discharge. High ready goes into the upstairs appartment while low read goes into the downstairs apartment. However, with the low ready in the apartment, you are more likely to have some kind of ND because you are carrying the gun at the level of the furniniture.
 
Hey, it's just a show. And also take note, the uniformed officers have their badges on the opposite side that real officers wear.
 
"... the low ready was a square range type of thing because a negligent discharge would go safely into the ground rather than with a high ready which would result in a bullet going over the backstop. But in an apartment building, there is no safe direction for a negligent discharge. ..with the low ready in the apartment, you are more likely to have some kind of ND because you are carrying the gun at the level of the furniniture."

Couple of thoughts, which are probably worth what you paid for them!

I think the idea behind low ready, particularly in an apartment/indoor situation, is to

a) keep the gun below your line of sight

b) reduce the opportunity for a goblin to attempt a grab

c) follow rule 2 (i.e. you don't want to come around a corner, and find your self pointing your weapon at a resident's face before you decide to shoot them.)

d) prevent an ND from going into your face- Farnham mentioned an incident were an LEO apparently did exactly that by using a "Miami Vice" high ready

e) keep your weapon from sweeping the more important parts of your fellow officers.

I think a lot of places are teaching a "compressed" low ready, wherein the muzzle is pointed down, but the weapon is held closer to the chest.

Your point about "no safe direction" indoors is a good one, and worth remembering when you are manupulating your firearm indoors, for whatever reason.

Not a bad idea to perform the manuplation in the bathroom, muzzle pointed into the commode. There have been at least two instances of an LEO having an ND, and killing someone in the motel next door/in the floor below.
 
As a former Los Angeles police officer, I find the show to be degrading and insulting. If we had done half the things these idiots do, we would have been arrested, charged and sent to jail, not to mention fired. There is never a substitute for good solid police work.
 
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Unlucky, in the link you provided, just where does it say or mention that "The Shield"storylines are gleaned from any activities that LAPD Rampart division were held accountable for?

12-34hom.
 
I have watched most/all episodes and wish there were more "real" cops like this guy(and his team).
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PLEASE tell me you are joking???

These guys are scum! murders! thieves! And you want more cops to be like that?

No way.

The best way this show could end is with Vic and his whole crew getting smoked in a drug deal gone bad and the real cops pissing on their graves in the last scene.
 
I have watched most/all episodes and wish there were more "real" cops like this guy(and his team).
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Just how much attention were you paying when you watched most/all episodes? You really wish we had more dirty, corrupt cops?

The series is supurb. I'm considering buying a smith autoloader and shaving my head. :D
 
A-Men to that, Vic is a good guy in a horrid place doing what he can to make the city safer and provide for his family. I couldn't care less if he takes some thugs dope money.
 
FedDC,

"Vic" killed a undercover cop in the second episode,not a dirty cop a undercover cop because Vic knew they guy was going to take him down.It is my favorite show on TV but I am under no illusion on what type of cops the actors are portaying,Vic is not a good guy.

As far as the Rampart compairison Micheal Chiklis (who plays Vic) made the compairison himself while being interviewed during the first year of the series.

CW
 
Assuming you're a cop, your comment sounds like willfull ignorance, as a quick search will dig up all sorts of things about LAPD Rampart Division.
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Uh huh. And does your research show every officer in the "scandal" which was investigated was cleared, except one, and that was for a very minor thing? Of course not...

That isn't news worthy. Or is that willful ignorance?
 
Unlucky, in the link you provided, just where does it say or mention that "The Shield"storylines are gleaned from any activities that LAPD Rampart division were held accountable for?
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Just because they aren't word for word, episode for episode, true to what happened at Rampart means little. There are plenty of crimes committed by LEOs to use for material.

Where I live, 3 officers gang-raped a woman and the DA found it compelling enough to bring charges. Another officer helped his wife commit murder. Another officer was taking bribes and dealing drugs. Another officer molested his niece. Two other officers conspired to commit theft, caught on their in-car recorder. None of this would make it onto "The Shield,"(except the bribes and drug dealing) but I think it drives home the point that LEOs DO commit crimes and some of these are good material.

Uh huh. And does your research show every officer in the "scandal" which was investigated was cleared, except one, and that was for a very minor thing? Of course not...That isn't news worthy. Or is that willful ignorance?
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Whitewash? It would look quite bad for LAPD to find so much corruption, so hanging one out to dry makes a great deal of sense.

http://da.co.la.ca.us/mr/021803a.htm

BTW, The DA's office seems to be contradicting what you've said, speaking of ignorance.

Why don't you stick to threatening Gabe Suarez?
 
I love the show too.

I guess cops aren't used to being portrayed in a poor light on TV.

You think The Shield is bad for your image -- try being a lawyer -- they get ripped on every show and every movie. Nothing is better for a cheap laugh than a joke about killing lawyers.

You get used to it.
 
Sure, It shows a lot of corruption in a FICTIONAL police force. However, it also shows a lot of the damage that being corrupt can do to you. They are setting up most, if not all of the characters to take some big falls brought on by their shortcomings, I don't think that they are trying to glamorize corruption or stick it to the cops. It is a FICTIONAL character driven drama using a corrupt precinct as the backdrop.

I haven't seen any clear agenda in the producing of the show, except to hook people into watching. It's just a show. Not propaganda.
 
If we had done half the things these idiots do, we would have been arrested, charged and sent to jail, not to mention fired.
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And if any real officers shot as many people as Reid and Malloy did on Adam-12 they would be under intense Psyc examination and riding a rubber desk.


SPOILER BELOW





It's a bleeding Television Program. IT AIN'T REAL!
I mean, it's not like it's Blind Date or 5th Wheel.
It's FICTION.



The Shield is only a TV show for Pete's sake. And a damn fine one at that. But it's an entertainment show not a documentary. It's not like Barfing Over Columbine, it's not disguising itself as real.

It's doesn't portray cops as any more corrupt than the movie Serpico. There were many movies made showing the corruption of NYPD back in the 60s and 70s.

Are there any corrupt cops left? Hell Yes!
I have known some, worked with some, kept my mouth shut about some and yes even testified against some. Some were even worse than Vic. They sickened me. But I have never known a 100% bad cop. All of them, no matter how contemptable they were, did at least some good police work.

Vic and his team on The Shield are supposed to pull at your emotions. They are basically good guys who wandered astray and have now nearly lost sight of the right path. You are supposed to both despise and sympathize with them. That's how they keep the viewers hooked. It's the same recipe that soap opras have been using for years.

If TV shows can be full of soft-hearted hookers, comical pimps and sympathetic drug dealers, why not loveable bad cops?

I mean it's not like South Park where they really DO kill Kenny very week.



pssssst keep this a secret. Professional wrestling ain't real either.
I know this from experience. I used to be a referee. Oh the shame of it all.
 
If cop TV shows did nothing but portray the TRUE day to day activities of the average-joe cop how much fun would it really be to watch.

Yep that would sell.
 
I really like The Shield, and as been said it’s just a TV show. It’s fictional entertainment.

QUOTE]Personally, i can't stand it - but it brings in ratings for Fox and that's what matters.[/QUOTE]

If you want to watch it check it out on FX, its not on FOX

QUOTE]If cop TV shows did nothing but portray the TRUE day to day activities of the average-joe cop how much fun would it really be to watch.[/QUOTE]

Ever hear of COPS. (bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do?) How many years has that been on? Personally I like RENO 911 as my “reality†police show.
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