The Ultimate Beretta Hate Thread

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I'm not generally a fan of the Beretta 92 as it is too large for what it does and I have kind of small hands.

But I'm in the middle of buying one, because in 2 months I'll be in basic, and in six months I'll be carrying an M9 and an M4 on duty as a USAF Security Forces grunt.

I've been carrying a Glock for five years and I need to get back into the DA/SA groove. I shoot a Beretta very well, I just choose not to own one. Now that I will carry one, I need one myself for training.

If I get sent to the sandbox I'll be taking some Militec dry lube, which just about every guy back from there I've met has said worked great.
 
Bah! the only 2 type guns anyone should own.....

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Glucks are training pistols for those who are maintenance challenged :neener:
 
A gun that ones carries for the defense of his life should be reliable in all conditions.

It should work dirty or clean. It should run well lubed or dry.

I really can't see why that is so hard to understand.
 
I can't stand them!I've owned them carried them and at one time hand to trust my life to them! My reason for these feelings are this. I think the army should have kept the trusted 1911.The stopping power of the .45ACP to the 9mm can't be argued! I understand all the NATO commonality of calibers and all this, But I feel the Military could have been better served making new 1911's instead of adopting the berretta! And now the military want's its .45's back because there finding the 9mm lacking! :cuss:
 
"I really can't see why that is so hard to understand."

What part of "we have sliding metal to metal contact under 30 odd-thousand psi of pressure" do you not understand? You wanna shoot yer weapons dry? Fine. Do us a favor and call the manufacturerer of your firearms and see if they recommend no lubrication-let us know what they say.

The ONLY time I would recommend no lube on a weapon system-especially an autoloader, would be if you find yourself in extreme artic sub zero temperatures. and only for a shot or two in an emergency. There are dry lubes out the which are much better than nothing.
 
Nothing wrong with Beretta.......they make fantastic weaponry. (Even though they're Italian!)

Witness below:

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a gun with out polymer is not a gun. gaston glock has set the new standard in which all guns must now follow.
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Sorry Glocker, HK was the first with a polymer weapon. Nice try though.

"Die hard Glock fans might wish that they could claim the original polymer frame pistol. Unfortunately they cannot. The VP70 is the original polymer frame handgun, with a design genesis of 1968. Way ahead of its time, the VP70 had a lot going for it, and it was designed hand in hand with a buttstock that converted the pistol into a three round burst submachine gun when the stock was attached.

The VP70 got its name with abbreviations. VP stands for the German "Volkspistole." "70" is the year of introduction. Volkspistole translated means 'people's pistol.' No longer in production, the VP was known as the VP70, the VP70M and the VP70Z. 'Z' stands for 'Zivilversion,' or civilian version. This was not available with the buttstock attachment. The 'M' in VP70M stands for Militär, or Military in German. When in burst mode, the cyclic rate of the VP70 is a blistering 2200 rpm.

The VP70 was produced in small quantity in caliber 9mm x 21, 400 units. Some examples in this caliber have been offered for sale in the United States.

The VP70 itself was designed by the great HK engineer Helmut Weldle and company co-founder Alex Seidel. Production of the VP70 series was halted in August, 1989."
 
No hate here! I love my Vertec. Finally, a double stack Wondernine that fits my mitts! It is more accurate for me than my Sigs and Glocks. There are several important things in life, that you shouldn't do without lubrication, but I digress... ;)
 
I hate Berettas because Italy is a communist country, because they are made of metal and not plastic, and because they have no soul. :evil:

Which is all BS. On most days Italy's socialist and not communist. Beretta's are fine guns--as long as the Italians don't have to futz with electrical components, they build fine products, and I'd be proud to own a Beretta. I was just making fun of the arguments some people use against certain other brands.
 
I could not hit anything beyond 15 yards with Beretta because the grip is so big . I carried one while in the army at least it remind me of the time when I served my country (like what JFK said ) . I bought Beretta 92F from Texas Pawn shop it kind of worry me about the slide failure because this model did not have the disc install on the frame to reflect the slide and prevent it from go straight back to my forehead in case of slide failure but I am not going to lose any sleep over it . Anyway , I only believe the real expert Mel Gibson , Bruce Willis , John woo and Jean Claude Van dame and they seem to agree that Beretta 92 is the best pistol so I will keep mine.
 
What part of "we have sliding metal to metal contact under 30 odd-thousand psi of pressure" do you not understand? You wanna shoot yer weapons dry? Fine. Do us a favor and call the manufacturerer of your firearms and see if they recommend no lubrication-let us know what they say.
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You still don't get the point. It is not that I WISH to shoot my pistol dry it is that if I HAVE TO I can shoot my pistol dry and it will still function.
 
Back in the late 80's when Wal-Mart still sold handguns the most asked question I got working the sporting goods counter was, "Do ya got any Berettas? Mel Gibson used one, Bruce Willis used one, how come ya'll ain't got any Berettas? "

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
I actually bought my Beretta because I didn't like them. I wanted to prove to all the Beretta fans that they weren't "all that." I was disappointed that the Beretta turned out to be pretty darned good.

After the break in period, I ran my Beretta very dry at times. After good useage and plenty of grease, the rails' surfaces started to feel like a well broke in skillet. They've become quite slick without any additional lubricant. I'm surprised to hear folks claiming the Beretta can't be shot dry. This hasn't been my experience, and I'm not a very lucky person.

Also, contrary to what the masses have expressed, I find the grip on the Beretta to be smallish. I think they could use an extra half inch in length to be more comfortable.

My Beretta has been a very solid gun. I guess I hate the Beretta because I was wrong about it. I've sold a couple of guns I originally thought were better than the 92FS.
 
I hate Beretta pistols too. Theyr'e too frickin accurate, reliable, smooth, classy, and cool. That sorry Italian company ends up getting all my money.
 
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