The ultimate put-down of the 9mm...

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The P-38 was cool...

But the real "coolest" aircraft of WWII was the original F-4... the Corsair.

My Dad had a job (for a while) assembling the gearboxes in the nosecone for the differential-pitch props. Pappy Boyington and the Black Sheep. Cool...
 
I'm a huge .45ACP fan but I'd like to see one of those guys stand infront of a 124gr +P Gold Dot fired out of a Sig 226. :scrutiny:
 
Advice on terminal ballistics and firearms from a drunken, Central American army officer... :rolleyes:

Now, on the other hand, if his advice had been on scotch and flashy uniforms. :D
 
I knew one retired diplomat in Texas, hunted on his ranch a couple years in fact. Heard that he had spent some time in Africa, once in fact got kidnapped by some rebels, managed to escape and make his way back to civilization. Interesting, fine gentleman. His daughter had a smile that could wake the dead. :evil: Diplomats are okay by me. :)

He hunted deer with a Model 99 Savage in .300 cal, just as I did for a while. That's a pretty cool deer rifle.

Thumbs up to Iowa Class Battleships, 1911's, A10's, Garands, Ma Deuce, and M14's. The list I submit also needs the F-15E and F-117 :D
 
Sorry, guys, but ceetee wins this one. The P-38 is a close second to the Corsair, but second nonetheless.

--Flyboy, who occasionally tools around in an A-26 Invader
 
I have to disagree a bit about modern ships. In general, he's on the money, but I happen to think that Arleigh Burke-class DDGs are rather sexy. Now, a Tico, that's a boxy ship- sort of the Glock of the Navy. :neener:
 
I won't knock revolvers -- but the M1911 sure has an impressive record.
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I agree wholeheartedly, Vern....

...but so does the Colt SAA, the S&W M&P, and the M1917's of both makers. :D

And the Luger, the Walther P-38, the Browning Hi-Power, and Star Modelo A & B have done pretty well on the battlefield as well.

Remember, the original 9mm Parabellum load was a 115gr truncated-cone bullet--not a round nose. The TC's flat metplat disrupted a lot more tissue than the FMJ without giving up much penetration. The difference was similar to the .38SPL 158gr. RNL vs. the 158gr. SWC. The smart pistoleros chose the SWC's in those pre-reliable-HP days. Even the .45ACP does a LOT better with a flat nose than with a round one, too. :neener:

Personally, I'll spend more time improving my aim than improving my ammo.... :cool:

P.S.: Sexiest military machine = A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog). How can you not love the concept of taking a giant Gatling gun and building an airplane around it? :evil:
 
Is the M-16 family of rifles, the "Harley Davidsons" of rifles? hehe....someone want to start a new thread on that?
 
B-25G's

Oneshooter, the B-25G's "only" had 8 forward firing .50's 4 in the nose and faired pods on each side containing 2 .50's each. They were also limited to 500 rounds/gun by weight and balance considerations. Pappy Gunn did also put a 75mm French Cannon in the nose of at least one B-25G during the war.
sorry,
jim
 
looks like we have moved from Garcia, to aircraft...cool...P-61 was nice, and after a coast to coast run, second seat, in a F-15 and back in a F-14... all I can say is AMAZING !!! missed the SR-71, the line of Auroa creations, the F-4, all the Rutan aircraft , B-52, F-106.... the list goes on ............
 
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With a 16" gun off an Iowa-class boat, placement in not an issue.
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I've had the New Jersey shoot in support of my company. You DEFINITELY want that big sucker placed EXACTLY where it's supposed to go!
 
I'm sure the 16" is impressive.

I don't believe the US fields that weapon anymore. My impression was the US Navy retired all the battleships several years ago. Darn shame if true.
 
B-25g

Acually it was 10 MG's as the upper turrent could be locked in the forward firing position. The G models were upgraded for Korea and carried Air to Ground rockets on the outer wings, this was just before most were replaced with the A-26. Dad flew both in Korea and prefered the Mitchell.
Oneshooter
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B-25 and Iowa class

Acually it was 10 MG's as the upper turrent could be locked in the forward firing position. The G models were upgraded for Korea and carried Air to Ground rockets on the outer wings, this was just before most were replaced with the A-26. Dad flew both in Korea and prefered the Mitchell.
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You're right Oneshooter, I "forgot" about the upper turret :banghead: If you want to read a good book about what went into the design, see if you can get a copy of Pappy Gunn, written by his son Nathaniel Gunn over in Texarkana. ISBN 1-4184-3775-1

It contains a lot of the actual notes, documentation and pics from WWII that his dad used. Also, the novel Whip by Martin Caiden has the B-25's in it.

I don't believe the US fields that weapon anymore. My impression was the US Navy retired all the battleships several years ago. Darn shame if true.
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Rabbi, they are all gone- Iowa and New Jersey were the last two and they are both retired now. And yes, they were impressive!!!! :what:
 
Pappy Gunn birthed the coolest airplane ever until the AC-130, the B-25H.. 8 forward firing .50's, a french 75 in the nose. Not a plane to get in front of. Gunn even shot a Jap transport plane with the 75. Just as the Jap plane was landing. Bet that was cool. OK, maybe the gun nosed B-25's are cooler than the AC-130's. After working on a B-52 base, I have to say the ol' BUFF is the H-D of Aircraft. Our wing commander told us once: "There is no place on earth you can hide from to get away from the B-52H" Of course, I remember the training seargent in tech school who said: "Look around your average city block. There is nothing on that block that Ma Duece can't shoot through." :evil: I do miss the service once in a while.

Hey Arc-lite, the Aurora program never existed, remember? :rolleyes:
 
The 75mm cannon on the Mitchell was not very popular. The rate of fire was only as fast as the copilot could reload,it was a single shot, and the ammo was bulky and hard to handle in the confines of the cockpit. Just take a look at the flight deck on one of those birds! :what: The other detriment was the recoil,the cannon was mounted directly to the airframe,the bird would all but STOP every time the big gun went boom. :D The rocket launchers,4 per wing, were very well liked, rapid fire, no recoil, 10lb bursting charge.


http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b25_13.html
Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
 
"Garcia and Puller are probably shooting coconuts off each others heads..."

Yeah, and I hope me and Skeeter can join in the fun (not TOO soon, though) with our 44 Specials! :D

I do agree with Garcia, though. :p
 
Rabbi, they are all gone- Iowa and New Jersey were the last two and they are both retired now. And yes, they were impressive!!!!
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Not technically gone- Iowa and Wisconsin are still in commission, but in a reserve status. New Jersey and Missouri have both been stricken and donated as museums, though.
 
Everytime WW2 aircraft come up it's Lightning this, Corsair that, Mustang is the boss.:rolleyes:

Then there is The Acemaker.

The F6F Hellcat's 19:1 kill ratio and ability to come back with more holes than airframe, is the warbird I'd hop into fresh off the time machine. Of the 6,477 air-to-air victories claimed by Navy and Marine Corps pilots, 4,403 were credited to F6F pilots. The Hellcat was only in combat from mid-43 through the end. Stick that in your gooney bird F4U cockpit's relief tube and suck on it Corsair fans. ;)

If I had to fly for my life, make mine a Grumman. Some samples from the "Iron Works:"
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OVER TWO HUNDRED BULLET HOLES COUNTED in this Hellcat, and yes it was flown home, by the guy they named Chicago's airport after.

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