The White Rodney King
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No...it's just that social misfits used to fear the system, not just consider it a hassle....ya know...all the paper work and hearings and all. I miss the days when cops were tough and made no bones about telling punks that they were going to get an *ss wuppin if they contuinued to behave poorly.
That's changed- and now we have high school kids who assault cops over nothing, freeway chases that endanger everyone because the perp knows there are few consequences, etc, etc. A little old fashioned fear (whether it came from the cops, your dad and his belt, a principle with his paddle, etc.) worked wonders back then.
And besides...anyone who spits in your face deserves an *ss wuppin.
2nd Amendment
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In a sense I really don't care. The jerk did "deserve" it(assuming he mouthed off). OTOH there's the problem of patterns. If the cop can do it this time when it was deserved he can do it later, when it isn't. You'll know the difference how? Also there's the race card. This is not making media attention because he's white, period. Either the King "beating"(he deserved it, too) should have never been an issue or this should also be an issue. Trying to have it both ways is by definition hypocritical.
redneck2
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It's easy to tell the difference. They guy that mouthed off to the cop has knots all over his head
Cops didn't go around whacking anybody and everybody...but in 1960 if you spit on a cop you were gonna pay
My wife used to work with a woman whose son set up a cop. Conveniently had a camera in place. When he spit on the cop, he got thumped. Now, if there was ever a piece of human debris, this loser is it. He ended up with over 500,000k and the cop loses his job. In the right world, the cop would have gotten to go 3 rounds in the lock-up with junior. A little "tune-up" would do wonders.
Cops didn't go around whacking anybody and everybody...but in 1960 if you spit on a cop you were gonna pay
My wife used to work with a woman whose son set up a cop. Conveniently had a camera in place. When he spit on the cop, he got thumped. Now, if there was ever a piece of human debris, this loser is it. He ended up with over 500,000k and the cop loses his job. In the right world, the cop would have gotten to go 3 rounds in the lock-up with junior. A little "tune-up" would do wonders.
thorn726
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spitting is so not the same as name calling. regardless the approval of violence here is staggering.
anyway, the article is at least slowly creeping into national news.
its about time, i know here there is RAmpant black on white racism, and it rarely makes news either. (not police related)
once someone is in cuffs, beating them is brutality.
anyway, the article is at least slowly creeping into national news.
its about time, i know here there is RAmpant black on white racism, and it rarely makes news either. (not police related)
once someone is in cuffs, beating them is brutality.
2nd Amendment
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Thank you for the absurdity. You'll know by the knots? Or by the police claim? Or you'll simply accept what the police tell you because it was OK the first timje they did it?
See above post, think about it.CannibalCrowley
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The "good ole days" weren't that good. Things are far from perfect today, and they were far from perfect then as well.redneck2 said:
You mean when troops had to accompany blacks to school and women were seen as being worth less than men?redneck2 said:
2nd Amendment said:
Wow, I know it's still early but that's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Of course I suppose it might make sense to someone who thinks that the police should be able to do whatever pleases them as long as it's under the guise of "public safety". Sheesh, why even bother with legislators, judges, and juries when your system has cops filling all those roles.redneck2 said:
What's the difference between what he did and the sting operations that cops run? I'm not saying what he did was right, but truthfully it doesn't sound too different.redneck2 said:
Maybe he should have been whacked a few times for resisting maybe not. I"m not a cop I haven't been there I don't know. Charges weren't filed could it have been a case of profiliing
"Once a crook always a crook" again I don't know. The hypocracy makes my blood boil. This is a prime example of why there are race tensions in this country and why they will continue until there is no distinction between red/white/blue/purple....
redneck2
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So what's the difference between this guy and cops who set somebody up in a sting??? You gotta be kidding. The cop gets 25k a year to protect me and my family. This piece of trash deals drugs and has never had a job in his life. All he does is suck up perfectly good oxygen. Next time someone is breaking into your place, call the local drug dealer instead of a cop.
Never said it was always a perfect world..never will be with imperfect people in it. Have we always treated minorities, women, etc. as they should be. No, and never will. There are blacks, arabs, and asians that would kill me just because I'm white. There are whites that kill them because they're not. Doesn't mean the world or our lives are better because we literally let people get away with murder.
I just wonder...if we're now in the Politically Correct world and so much safer, why is it that you can't drive thru most cities without fearing for your life? Why is it that the average sentence for killing a child in the US is 7 years and 8 months??
In the 60's, you could buy a US mil-surp 1911 delivered via US mail to your doorstep. You had to sign a little coupon that stated you were 18-21 (whatever), mail it in, and it was all legal. Funny thing is, you never had school shootings, but a grade school kid could walk into a hardware store and buy a .22 legally
If a cop thumped on somebody that didn't deserve it, he would have had more than a little answering to do. If you lived your life the way my family did, you had nothing to worry about
I know the media and your college professors tell you how much better off you are now with the PC craze. Bull.
Everybody has their rights today. I can kill you, your wife, and all your family, but if the cop forgets to read that little piece of paper, I walk.
So, for all those replying about how much better off we are today with our "rights", I'll take you over to Gary, Indiana some night. When my mother-in-law was 9, she used to walk down Broadway to the movies on Saturday night...alone. Let's see you make it 2 blocks at 9 on Saturday night now. While you're lying there in a pool of blood, maybe the cop will be sure he reads the perp his rights.
Never said it was always a perfect world..never will be with imperfect people in it. Have we always treated minorities, women, etc. as they should be. No, and never will. There are blacks, arabs, and asians that would kill me just because I'm white. There are whites that kill them because they're not. Doesn't mean the world or our lives are better because we literally let people get away with murder.
I just wonder...if we're now in the Politically Correct world and so much safer, why is it that you can't drive thru most cities without fearing for your life? Why is it that the average sentence for killing a child in the US is 7 years and 8 months??
In the 60's, you could buy a US mil-surp 1911 delivered via US mail to your doorstep. You had to sign a little coupon that stated you were 18-21 (whatever), mail it in, and it was all legal. Funny thing is, you never had school shootings, but a grade school kid could walk into a hardware store and buy a .22 legally
If a cop thumped on somebody that didn't deserve it, he would have had more than a little answering to do. If you lived your life the way my family did, you had nothing to worry about
I know the media and your college professors tell you how much better off you are now with the PC craze. Bull.
Everybody has their rights today. I can kill you, your wife, and all your family, but if the cop forgets to read that little piece of paper, I walk.
So, for all those replying about how much better off we are today with our "rights", I'll take you over to Gary, Indiana some night. When my mother-in-law was 9, she used to walk down Broadway to the movies on Saturday night...alone. Let's see you make it 2 blocks at 9 on Saturday night now. While you're lying there in a pool of blood, maybe the cop will be sure he reads the perp his rights.
EVIL5LITER
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I think the point he is making here is about entrapment...
redneck2
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So this jerk didn't entrap the cop??? the movie camera was all set up so they could make money.
Tell you what...I'll look you up, then call you all kinds of names, spit in your face and then stomp on top of your foot. I want you to just say "that's OK, it's all in my job description..have a nice day!!"
Pal, if I was that cop, his teeth would be rolling down the gutter like a box of Chicklets
You guys are missing the whole point. It's not about beating on anybody because they're wearing the wrong color of socks. It's about a little repect for authority and what's right. I've never been beat on by a cop, but that's because I'm not stupid enough to give a cop a reason to beat on me. Run your mouth and you deserve what you get.
Tell you what...I'll look you up, then call you all kinds of names, spit in your face and then stomp on top of your foot. I want you to just say "that's OK, it's all in my job description..have a nice day!!"
Pal, if I was that cop, his teeth would be rolling down the gutter like a box of Chicklets
You guys are missing the whole point. It's not about beating on anybody because they're wearing the wrong color of socks. It's about a little repect for authority and what's right. I've never been beat on by a cop, but that's because I'm not stupid enough to give a cop a reason to beat on me. Run your mouth and you deserve what you get.
I agree with you redneck2. It's amazing to me that people today are willing to let 99.9% of people down to ensure that 0.1% are not abused. And about 99% of that 0.1% probably deserve some abuse (and will likely get abused worse over the long run - but only after they have victimized numerous others). And yet we're the "statist". Laughable.
redneck 2
If a man spits on me or commits a lesser (on occasion) insult to me or mine, I'm likely to go up side his head. Been there, done it, got the tats, t-shirt and scars and record. That's why I'm not an LEO. I don't get paid to take it and don't have the disposition. However, when you sign up for a job, you know the rules.
Go by 'em or find another job and don't whine after the fact. Not a slam on anyone, just a statement of fact.
Biker
If a man spits on me or commits a lesser (on occasion) insult to me or mine, I'm likely to go up side his head. Been there, done it, got the tats, t-shirt and scars and record. That's why I'm not an LEO. I don't get paid to take it and don't have the disposition. However, when you sign up for a job, you know the rules.
Go by 'em or find another job and don't whine after the fact. Not a slam on anyone, just a statement of fact.
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redneck2
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I don't disagree. Problem is, the "rules" keep shifting to the left all the time. I think they've fallen over the left edge
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[chorus]We shall overcome[/chorus]
Nah, that's been done. We need a new anthem.
Biker's right. As someone that's been beaten on by cops for no good reason, they need to be in control if they put on the badge, and control means taking some guff without lashing out with a weapon on somebody that's practically helpless. Real tough guy. As I've said before, I've got respect for the law, but nothing but contempt for a punk on a power trip.
I won't even comment on the idiocy of the national media.
Nah, that's been done. We need a new anthem.
Biker's right. As someone that's been beaten on by cops for no good reason, they need to be in control if they put on the badge, and control means taking some guff without lashing out with a weapon on somebody that's practically helpless. Real tough guy. As I've said before, I've got respect for the law, but nothing but contempt for a punk on a power trip.
I won't even comment on the idiocy of the national media.
redneck2
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Now, maybe I live in a different world, but I see the chances of me getting beaten on for "no good reason" to be very, very slim. Could be wrong, but that's my world.
Then again, I'm 54 and never had so much as a speeding ticket. Maybe it's something to do with lifestyle
Then again, I'm 54 and never had so much as a speeding ticket. Maybe it's something to do with lifestyle
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"The cop should be suspended, maybe even fired."
...But never charged with a crime...
What this really is is another example of why they need more tazers.
"the pragmatic and/or nostalgic side misses the days when the bad guys feared the cops would beat the crap out of them, and thus avoided being in situations where it might happen."
Perhaps that contributed to on the job hazards, people maybe used violence more often with less rationale if they know they could in fact 'fall down the stairs' if arrested?
...But never charged with a crime...
What this really is is another example of why they need more tazers.
"the pragmatic and/or nostalgic side misses the days when the bad guys feared the cops would beat the crap out of them, and thus avoided being in situations where it might happen."
Perhaps that contributed to on the job hazards, people maybe used violence more often with less rationale if they know they could in fact 'fall down the stairs' if arrested?
Stevie-Ray
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Yup, you're wrong.
CannibalCrowley
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Hmm, still waiting for that difference.redneck2 said:
And police do the same thing so what's the difference?redneck2 said:
I have to call Bravo Sierra on this one. It's not that there weren't school shootings in the 60s, they just weren't as widely publicized by the media as they are today. Case in point: A wound still fresh: Survivor of 1966 school shooting relives painredneck2 said:
Exactly, especially when that punk on a power trip goes free while one of us would go to jail.Stevie-Ray said:
Sounds like a man trying to justify beating his wife.redneck2 said:
The_Antibubba
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Redneck2, you're just wrong. When the police had the ability to pound on a suspect when they wanted to, a lot of pounding was done, whether it was deserved or not. If you were black or hispanic, well, you probably had it coming, right?
I've never heard the term "boogie" used as a slur. But you know what? I don't care. I think cops should be held to a higher standard. No excuse.
I've never heard the term "boogie" used as a slur. But you know what? I don't care. I think cops should be held to a higher standard. No excuse.
BryanP
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Why am I suddenly put in mind of that Chris Rock video routine (I've got it here as an 11MB MPG file) 'How not to get your *** kicked by the Police."
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