The whole Glock line of pistols is so "naturally pointable" that you don't even need to be able to see what you're shooting at. If you hear a noise at night, just point and shoot, and you'll hit it... (whatever it was that you were pointing at...)
things i learned in a gun shop today
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BHPshooter
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I don't know if it fits here, since I didn't learn it at the gunshop, but one of my HS teachers was a VietNam vet, who was telling us all about the M16 one day... You know the story, it was the finest rifle that we could produce at the time (the phrase "lowest bidder" came to mind) and the bullets tumbled to tear up the target. 
Wes
Wes
Carlos Cabeza
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While at the local hardware store (Gunshop) I ask to see the Colt Delta Elite 1911 in 10mm. The salesman says "Ahhhh, this one's a real tack driver" and proceeds to use the butt of the gun to drive a small nail into the wall. 
Luckily, I had my "sense of humor" hat on and chuckled along with the gentleman. My reply was "Yup, never any doubt in my mind" 
I have purchased from this gentleman before and assume it was his way of being more of a personal aquaintance instead of treating me like the dozens of other clods that come into the store. I think I'll go visit him again early next year. I've been wanting a GC or a DE in 10mm.
Luckily, I had my "sense of humor" hat on and chuckled along with the gentleman. My reply was "Yup, never any doubt in my mind" I have purchased from this gentleman before and assume it was his way of being more of a personal aquaintance instead of treating me like the dozens of other clods that come into the store. I think I'll go visit him again early next year. I've been wanting a GC or a DE in 10mm.LifeNRA
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I heard a guy in a gun store say to his buddy "Look there is a glock, you know they will go through a metal detector without setting it off." The gun store owner quickly explained to the two guys how it was an urban myth and that it would set off a metal detector. To which the first guy exclaimed "But I saw it on a TV show." To which the owner did this .
.Mike Irwin
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Spend more time on both sides of the counter than I care to recall.
Had to deal with some REAL a@@holes on both sides.
It's no different than any other hobby.
Had to deal with some REAL a@@holes on both sides.
It's no different than any other hobby.
wingnutx
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I was shopping one day when a couple of homeboys came in wanting to buy a Glock that would not set of metal detectors.
They guy behind the counter spent about 5 minutes explaining to them that it didn't exist, and even if it did that nobody but govt spooks would ever get their hands on one.
They were pretty emphatic that it did exist, but finally gave up and left.
Ringer
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About 1 in 3 visits, maybe more, to the range/shop there are two guys handling the Blue Plastic Baretta with the M6 on it, waving it around bouncing the laser off the wall and ceiling and saying "cooooooollllllll". I guess it is no coincidence it is kept on the glass case right above the rental guns. I will say that the folks behind the counter usually set them straight on the limited actual situations in which it may benefit the shooter and that they should learn how to shoot with the sights before considering a laser.
Chalk one up for the guys/gals behind the counter.
Chalk one up for the guys/gals behind the counter.
luxone
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I believe I have lost 25 IQ points just by reading the tales of these morons!
One of my favorite "Gun Shop Urban Legends",
"the one about them armor piercing Black Talons that they outlawed! Them things is so extra deadly they made it eeelegal to have them!"
One of my favorite "Gun Shop Urban Legends",
"the one about them armor piercing Black Talons that they outlawed! Them things is so extra deadly they made it eeelegal to have them!"
Hillman
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I took a break from Christmas shopping to fondle some goodies in the gun case at the local sporting goods store.
The salesman wanted to know if I wanted to look at a Glock. (I was looking at the Sigs and Kimbers case.) Told him no, I really didn't care for them ... I don't like the way they feel in my hand.
Then he *enlightened* me.
The Glock 36 is the most popular sidearm in the military. More of them are being used in Iraq because the sand doesn't bother them.
The Glock 36 is also the ideal competition weapon. The salesman himself shoots competitively with it. I asked IDPA? He said, "Yes, target", then went on to say he had shot 2000 rounds though his without ever cleaning it. Just took it out of the box and started shooting. "They just don't need as much cleaning as other guns. I just wipe down the outside to keep it looking good."
I told him I'd rather carry a revo for CCW, and I was looking for more of a 'fun' gun.
Again, I was enlightened.
Revolvers aren't very good for CCW. They're too wide.
The SW640 only has 5 shots. That's not good for a self-defense. You should have more firepower. The Glock 36 is what he'd recommend.
He also sold some 6-shot revolvers if I'd prefer one of those. Then he said he was surprised they were made by Smith & Wesson.
I thanked him for his time, and left.
The salesman wanted to know if I wanted to look at a Glock. (I was looking at the Sigs and Kimbers case.) Told him no, I really didn't care for them ... I don't like the way they feel in my hand.
Then he *enlightened* me.
The Glock 36 is the most popular sidearm in the military. More of them are being used in Iraq because the sand doesn't bother them.
The Glock 36 is also the ideal competition weapon. The salesman himself shoots competitively with it. I asked IDPA? He said, "Yes, target", then went on to say he had shot 2000 rounds though his without ever cleaning it. Just took it out of the box and started shooting. "They just don't need as much cleaning as other guns. I just wipe down the outside to keep it looking good."
I told him I'd rather carry a revo for CCW, and I was looking for more of a 'fun' gun.
Again, I was enlightened.
Revolvers aren't very good for CCW. They're too wide.
The SW640 only has 5 shots. That's not good for a self-defense. You should have more firepower. The Glock 36 is what he'd recommend.
He also sold some 6-shot revolvers if I'd prefer one of those. Then he said he was surprised they were made by Smith & Wesson.
I thanked him for his time, and left.
MoNsTeR
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I learned that "stainless" Berettas aren't really stainless, they're plated with something. Never mind that STAINLESS rollmark on the slide and barrel...
(Dave's in Aurora)
(Dave's in Aurora)
I totally forgot his sales technique:
Looked at an SKS: "They are trying to ban this one!"
Me: "There are a lot of guns people are trying to ban"
Him: "They are trying to ban this one in particular."
Same thing with an SVD and Ithaca 37.
Looked at an SKS: "They are trying to ban this one!"
Me: "There are a lot of guns people are trying to ban"
Him: "They are trying to ban this one in particular."
Same thing with an SVD and Ithaca 37.
BHPshooter
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LOL, I was talking with my parents the other day, and my Dad said something about the Black Talons being illegal cop-killer bullets.
"No, Dad, they were just media hyped so Winchester changed the name. They're not illegal."
"Yeah they are! They were BANNED!" He then went on to the usual "do you think I'm an idiot/you don't know what you're talkin' 'bout, boy/don't tell me my business" kind of thing.
Why do I bother?
Wes
"One recomended if a total newbie to take a course ( NRA First Step, or sit in on A CCW course and pay attention to guns, safety and gain permisson to try guns if avail) Usually a revolver is what he personally prefers, however the Glock is user friendly...depends on budget; used the revo is the best way to go. "
What is wrong with this advice?
What is wrong with this advice?
BluesBear
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Kilgor, There was nothing wrong with the advice SM got from the two gunshops he called. That was his point. While the two chain stores, gave info that was of dubious validity.
What many peope overlook is that the chain stores see a lot more people on a daily basis and therefor are in a position to spread a lot more misinformation.
What many peope overlook is that the chain stores see a lot more people on a daily basis and therefor are in a position to spread a lot more misinformation.
The lasers you can buy easily--including lasers used for gun sights are pretty eyesafe.
Last time I did some research, the only incidence of possible eye injury I turned up involved a child who stared fixedly into the beam for several minutes on a bet. There was some irritation reported, but no detectable permanent damage, IIRC.
Last time I did some research, the only incidence of possible eye injury I turned up involved a child who stared fixedly into the beam for several minutes on a bet. There was some irritation reported, but no detectable permanent damage, IIRC.
nico
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I had an interresting experience at Outdoor World today. I wanted to look at a Tikka T3, but all they had was a whitetail hunter so I took a look at that instead. As I was holding it and cycling the bolt, etc. I asked the guy behind the counter (who claimed to be the resident expert on tikkas) what the difference was between the models. He said how the T3 only weights 2lbs and costs $120 more than the Whitetail hunter, but they didn't know when they'd get another one in. I handed him the gun, thanked him, and left.
sm
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From someone else's gunshop visit...
I have shot a few shotshells in my life.
I deliver a new SX2 to a customer of my gunsmith buddy, the lady bought one for her hubby ( she doesn't know she is getting a shotgun too btw, I'll probably get shot by both with my sneaking and 'white' lying.)
Upon my recommendation I suggest the AA Target loads for practice and to save hulls for later down the road. She goes to a chain store that sells guns and not seeing on the shelf she inquires, even has the Win. product codes. Older sales guy mind you: " Little lady them short based shells don't have enough power to run a gun like that, them for O/U guns only. You need these taller brass ones for a gun like that". Lady is not stupid, she has just about had it with the "little lady" remark regardless of what and being talked down to so she asks " What about a pump action gun?"
"Little lady, short based shells in pump guns is what causes them to not work, people think they are short stroking but really the lack of brass makes it harder to extract".
This lady is a highly trained medical professional, she informs him of that and says "you know, I've shot a model 12 many a time at trap and never had a malfuntion", she then just says look,"you want to just get more of my money for higher price shells say so...just don't insult my intelligence".
She bought elsewhere, only reason she went in was to take a neighbor whom just needed a certain toy.
I guess I have been doing it wrong all these years...I didn't short stroke, I had the wrong size brass all along... 
Memo to self: add this to Excuses 101
I have shot a few shotshells in my life.
I deliver a new SX2 to a customer of my gunsmith buddy, the lady bought one for her hubby ( she doesn't know she is getting a shotgun too btw, I'll probably get shot by both with my sneaking and 'white' lying.)
Upon my recommendation I suggest the AA Target loads for practice and to save hulls for later down the road. She goes to a chain store that sells guns and not seeing on the shelf she inquires, even has the Win. product codes. Older sales guy mind you: " Little lady them short based shells don't have enough power to run a gun like that, them for O/U guns only. You need these taller brass ones for a gun like that". Lady is not stupid, she has just about had it with the "little lady" remark regardless of what and being talked down to so she asks " What about a pump action gun?"
"Little lady, short based shells in pump guns is what causes them to not work, people think they are short stroking but really the lack of brass makes it harder to extract".
This lady is a highly trained medical professional, she informs him of that and says "you know, I've shot a model 12 many a time at trap and never had a malfuntion", she then just says look,"you want to just get more of my money for higher price shells say so...just don't insult my intelligence".
She bought elsewhere, only reason she went in was to take a neighbor whom just needed a certain toy.
I guess I have been doing it wrong all these years...I didn't short stroke, I had the wrong size brass all along...
Memo to self: add this to Excuses 101
michiganfan
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Phil in Seattle. When I read your post I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the absolute truth of your statement.
Nathaniel Firethorn
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In a shop that doesn't exist anymore...
Prolly every gunshop has one or two bona-fide tinfoil hat types attached. This one was no exception -- there was a customer who seemed harmless enough, but thought that the Feds were going to start the Rise of the Blue Helmets in Hillsborough Outdoor Sports Center. He had a theory of the week about this, and practiced bugging the owners and spooking other customers regularly.
Well, one day it happened.
While Captain Paranoid was inside expounding on the Trilateral Commission, Ruby Ridge, or whatever, a black helicopter landed in the cornfield behind the shop.
A genuine, bonafide black helicopter.
Turned out it was some corporate pilot who was having trouble. Fortunately, the owner was able to restrain the faithful customer and administer a sedative...
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Prolly every gunshop has one or two bona-fide tinfoil hat types attached. This one was no exception -- there was a customer who seemed harmless enough, but thought that the Feds were going to start the Rise of the Blue Helmets in Hillsborough Outdoor Sports Center. He had a theory of the week about this, and practiced bugging the owners and spooking other customers regularly.
Well, one day it happened.
While Captain Paranoid was inside expounding on the Trilateral Commission, Ruby Ridge, or whatever, a black helicopter landed in the cornfield behind the shop.
A genuine, bonafide black helicopter.
Turned out it was some corporate pilot who was having trouble. Fortunately, the owner was able to restrain the faithful customer and administer a sedative...
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Zach S
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LMAO. I remember talking to a 'Nam vet and he explaned how the M16 got its name. "You see, the M stood for machinegun, and the 16 was how many times it jammed when SHTF."
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