This Does It All

[luv2safari]

I couldn't afford it, but the price was doable, and my drug of choice is a combination gun, drillings, cape guns, BBFs...

It's a circa 1938 BSW two barrel cape gun/SXS set. These were Simson just before the Nazis ran them out of Germany; Simson was a Jewish family.

It's a rare gun in that the two barrel sets didn't get separated at the defeat of Germany when all civilian firearms were confiscated and piled up in the middle of streets.

It's a 16ga SXS and a Cape barreled 16ga and 8X57IR, now scoped with a store branded S&B 2.5-8 scope in claw mounts. I'll be eating dog food for another six months to get the checking account healthy again.

 

[barnett]

Fantastic! Love the very subtle Prince of Wales grip and splinter forend. Great find.

 

[vanfunk]

Oh man. Oh man. Stunning. Gorgeous. Looks like rust blue, too? I’d have done that deal, too. Then I’d open a meth lab for a day to pay for it.

 

[luv2safari]

Oh man. Oh man. Stunning. Gorgeous. Looks like rust blue, too? I’d have done that deal, too. Then I’d open a meth lab for a day to pay for it.

I never thought of that!!

Want to form a partnership??

 

[vanfunk]

Totally. I’m all for profit sharing.

 

[luv2safari]

Totally. I’m all for profit sharing.

Yeah...you're quick solution gave that away.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

WOW!!!!!!

 

[luv2safari]

Link to their 1938 catalog after Simson changed the company name, since they were a Jewish family.

Simson & Co., BSW, Waffa – German Hunting Guns

This gun in their catalog:

1937 BSW (Berlin-Suhler Waffen) Catalog & Price List – German Hunting Guns

 

[luv2safari]

Gotta say I am very happy to come back here after too long at 24HR trainwreck. The folks here sure make me feel welcome...good bunch

 

[Steve in NC]

Sometimes you just have wash your hands and ask if you can feel the ol girl a couple of times. Admire it, wipe it down with a oily cloth and hand it back and say thanks.

 

[luv2safari]

Link to their 1938 catalog after Simson changed the company name, since they were a Jewish family.

Simson & Co., BSW, Waffa – German Hunting Guns

This gun in their catalog:

1937 BSW (Berlin-Suhler Waffen) Catalog & Price List – German Hunting Guns

This gun is the Astora 35 BD

 

[Riomouse911]

Amazing!!

I love how so many European gun makers put together shotgun/rifle combo guns or drillings. I guess all the decades of governments limiting gun ownership, coupled with mixed bag continental hunting and African safaris, made those pieces of art worth the price.

The 16 ga is still viable today, how do you plan on feeding the 8x57IR? Does PPU or Norma still load those rounds?

Stay safe.

 

[luv2safari]

Amazing!!

I love how so many European gun makers put together shotgun/rifle combo guns or drillings. I guess all the decades of governments limiting gun ownership, coupled with mixed bag continental hunting and African safaris, made those pieces of art worth the price.

The 16 ga is still viable today, how do you plan on feeding the 8x57IR? Does PPU or Norma still load those rounds?

Stay safe.

I have a drilling and another cape gun two-barrel set in 12ga and 8X57IR, along with plenty of ammo and .318 bullets.

A characteristic of these guns that's not commonly known is that the bores are often .320-.321, and shooting the .323 bullets is OK. After WWI ammo for them was made from unobtanium, so most combo gun shooters used 8X57S military ball ammo. A cleaning rod was used to push empty cases out, and some guns had a modification of the extractor done. Guns made after WWI until the end of WWII in Germany had the .320-.321 bores as a compromise to allow shooting S-bore .323 bullets. I've slugged Many combination gun bores, and the guns from about 1920 to 1945 usually had .319 to .321 bores.

A small spring loaded button was installed in the extractor edge that slipped over the rim of the "rimless" case and extracted the military ball cases as the rimmed extractor moved. These are also found in 7X57R combo guns, so the shooter can use conventional rimless ammo.

For years no .318 bullets were available to American reloaders. We used 32 Spl 170gr .321 bullets. As a rule, the .321 bullets shoot more accurately than .318 bullets, but they take some load development to regulate them.

P.O. Ackley showed that a bullet sizes itself to a bore before pressures are high, and thusly a bullet is sized in time to prevent high pressures.

 

[Riomouse911]

I have a drilling and another cape gun two-barrel set in 12ga and 8X57IR, along with plenty of ammo and .318 bullets.

A characteristic of these guns that's not commonly known is that the bores are often .320-.321, and shooting the .323 bullets is OK. After WWI ammo for them was made from unobtanium, so most combo gun shooters used 8X57S military ball ammo. A cleaning rod was used to push empty cases out, and some guns had a modification of the extractor done. Guns made after WWI until the end of WWII in Germany had the .320-.321 bores as a compromise to allow shooting S-bore .323 bullets. I've slugged Many combination gun bores, and the guns from about 1920 to 1945 usually had .319 to .321 bores.

A small spring loaded button was installed in the extractor edge that slipped over the rim of the "rimless" case and extracted the military ball cases as the rimmed extractor moved. These are also found in 7X57R combo guns, so the shooter can use conventional rimless ammo.

For years no .318 bullets were available to American reloaders. We used 32 Spl 170gr .321 bullets. As a rule, the .321 bullets shoot more accurately than .318 bullets, but they take some load development to regulate them.

P.O. Ackley showed that a bullet sizes itself to a bore before pressures are high, and thusly a bullet is sized in time to prevent high pressures.

Very cool! I knew the .318 bullets were scarce, empty cases, too. Sounds like you have it dialed in.

Again, that is one very nice combination set that you have. I, too would be down to just popcorn and Kool Aid until the first of the month if I had sprung for it.

Stay safe.

 

[DustyGmt]

Yowzers. I would decorate my house around that gun, or be like one of those guys who buys the porsche and wears the hat and coat

Design an illuminated display to look at it adoringly while you eat your Ramen noodles.

 

[luv2safari]

Yowzers. I would decorate my house around that gun, or be like one of those guys who buys the porsche and wears the hat and coat

Design an illuminated display to look at it adoringly while you eat your Ramen noodles.

Fish heads and rice, my friend...fish heads and rice.

I know how to live high.

 

[tmd16556]

There’s no shame in eating Ol’Roy for a few months if you have one of those.

 

[luv2safari]

There’s no shame in eating Ol’Roy for a few months if you have one of those.

Pedigree for me...

 

[bangswitch]

I'll be eating dog food for another six months to get the checking account healthy again.

Why dog food? You can kill a lot of dinners with that setup. Beautiful find.