This explains a lot about the 22lr issues

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Just for the hell of it I took a peek on gunbroker and these people are either uniformed,caught up in the panic or just plain stupid. I just bought one of these remington 1400rd buckets for 69.99 and this one on gunbroker is at 14 bids at 150 dollars with 4 days left in the auction. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=380642530 This crap is insane with the 500rd remington bricks selling at 40 to 60 dollars.
 
I think 22 ammo is non-existent in some parts of the country. So those folks resort to the online auction sites.
 
these people are either uniformed,caught up in the panic or just plain stupid
Or, they may have no .22LR locally and are willing to pay more than you would be willing to should so that they can keep shooting.
 
325 round packs are going for $50 and 500 round packs are averaging $60 down here in southern Arizona. People are still lining up at Walmart Saturday at 0700 to buy up the ammo they put out. Pretty crazy
 
Makes me want to go on Gunbroker and auction off 1,000 rounds of .22 with a starting bid of $1,000...then sign on with another Gunbroker ID and hit the minimum just so I can get stories circulating on the internet about how crazy it's getting. "Did you see that .22 LR is going for a dollar per round online!"

All I'd have to pay is the fee for a sold item...probably about twenty bucks...well worth it to stir up some internet buzz. :D
 
325 round packs are going for $50 and 500 round packs are averaging $60 down here in southern Arizona. People are still lining up at Walmart Saturday at 0700 to buy up the ammo they put out. Pretty crazy

Are you referring to the Yuma area?
 
Yeah, these people ARE insane, because for what they are paying for 22LR, they can pretty much shoot 9mm AND have brass left over! Hell, shooting 38 special manufacturer reloads can run as low as .19 per round these days. Again, with brass left over. I've seen 22LR go for as high as .17 per round for non-match grade stuff on Gunbroker!

I'm not going to say that these people are idiots, but anyone buying 22LR off Gunbroker at ~$800 per 5K rounds need to learn basic math.
 
There's a lot of new shooters, they don't necessarily own these other equally cheap platforms, but they still want to shoot/plink, and have no memory of what prices were or should be. They just know they want to shoot, need ammo to do so, and have enough money to buy ammo. My pa was recently asking if a brick was worth 50$ or something; I told him if he actually wanted to go shoot, he'd need it, and that he should ask himself if the convenience of buying it in person was worth the difference over what it goes for online + shipping + time + risk of dissatisfaction. Seeing as he is a very occasional shooter, taking a hit like that on one brick which will last him all year ain't much of a loss. Multiply that by the millions of new shooters, millions of new old shooters (like my Dad, who had guns but is getting back into it), and they get to set the price above what the mere millions of avid/knowledgeable shooters think is reasonable/affordable.

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All those Walmart line shoppers are going right back to Gunbroker and listing it for sale.

It's not a panic as much as free enterprise working. As soon as the few desperate buyers quit swiping their credit cards, there will be .22. It's not a manufacturing shortage, or the military buying it up, it's the uninformed who don't know any other method of getting ammo, and some smart guys turning a bit of profit.

The sheep are lining up to be sheared - same as Cabbage Patch dolls or Pet Rocks. How many of us would love to laugh all the way to the bank? Somebody IS buying up the high priced ammo, and if that brick on the shelf doesn't sell in 6 months, then what the heck, the shop owner will price it down and it will move then. If he's asking $80 he very likely didn't even pay $40.

Got to ask, are they being scalpers, profiteers, and gougers, or just smart? What's your view of capitalism?
 
What I wonder is - say 20 years down the line, there will be some estate auctions listed with 100,000 rounds of 22 in the basement. I bought a few packs here and there, and then looked at my own supply one day and realized with some amazement the number of rounds I had squirreled away.
 
Wal-Mart in the area I live is just about the worst place to buy, they tend to have a good bit of ammo, (have for awhile) they just tend to be as high if not higher than the LGS's (who are hit or miss on having ammo) around here.
 
I don't believe we are still talking about shortage due to some recent event. It has been over a year since Sandy Hook. I don't believe it is just a bubble or burp in the supply. I was hoping by now some manufacturer would expand their production runs in another facility. Then again, I am not a manufacturer and there must be a lot of logistics to take into account.

But when I see a shortage going on for over a year, I must imagine a manufacturer or two must be thinking by now that they need to start another facility or add lines to deal with the demand.

At one point does a manufacturer determines a difference between an ongoing genuine shortage versus a short term panic bubble?
 
Here is the strange thing. I pay 8 cents a round for CCI 22lr but pellets for an air gun are going for 12 cents each.
Where in the world are you buying air gun pellets!? :eek:

At Pyramid Air the most expensive pellets (individually packaged, match quality, target pellets) are selling for 8-9 cents a piece. Normal bulk airgun pellets from Daisy, Beeman and Gamo are starting as low as 1-1.5 cent each.
 
Well, I would think that with CMP's solid order for 32,000,000 rounds, along with all the other demand, some manufacturer would be willing to expand production radically.
 
I have been able to find bricks of the bulk stuff at local gun stores recently at near pre-panic prices, so I guess it depends on where you live. I stopped shooting .22 for a while, and just shot my center fire stuff as I reload and was able to get components at good prices.
 
Just for the hell of it I took a peek on gunbroker and these people are either uniformed,caught up in the panic or just plain stupid. I just bought one of these remington 1400rd buckets for 69.99 and this one on gunbroker is at 14 bids at 150 dollars with 4 days left in the auction. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=380642530 This crap is insane with the 500rd remington bricks selling at 40 to 60 dollars.

Well, OBVIOUSLY this "crap" is not insane for those selling on gunbroker. People are quite willing to give them twice, or more, times the retail value for the ammunition.

If people want to buy their ammo at those kinds of prices, then who are we to deny them that? Especially if they don't have ANY in the first place. Personally, I could see a one-time purchase at above-retail in order to obtain SOME stock to get me by until supplies normalize somewhat.

Other than this, I'll bide my own time and check local sources once in a while and pick up ammo at local retail prices. Like tomorrow morning I'll be at Dicks checking availabilit of their .22. If they have some, great...I'll buy my limit. If not, I'll try again later.
 
Was at Gander Mtn. in Rogers,MN, Just down the street from Cabelas, they had tables full of Federal 22 lr 525 bulk pack for $22.00. They had all kinds of other ammo,223,7.62x54 spam cans, loads of primers $3.99 a box. The only thing I could NOT find was 6mm bullets.
About 2 weeks ago in Fargo,ND av fed ex truck pilling doubles was on the clover leaf leaving I-29 on to I-94 and the door on one of the trailers came open and a pallet of 22 lr fell out on the pavement. The Interstate was shut down for a good share of the day cleaning up the mess. Be a good place to go do volunteer for road clean up this spring.
 
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