This is how the Mossberg 100 ATR Night Train should look like

[Eb1]

@shotgunjoel

I don't call BS. My Marlin XL7 25-06 with factory ammo (Winchester 115 grain Ballistic Tips with the black crap on them) will shoot .25" groups at 100 yards regularly. It can be done. But I do agree. I would choose function over form, and would have left the rifle as it were.

 

[jpwilly]

I'm unaware of any match quality 30-06

You may want to check this link out then: http://www.midwayusa.com/Search/#30-06 match____-_1-2-4_8-16-32

 

[yarik72]

Not impossible, just impossible to be credible on the Internet.

Statistically, it's much more likely that the poster is exaggerating than Mossy putting out a .25moa rifle.

Also, I think the load data should be posted. I'm unaware of any match quality 30-06, so I assume it must be hand loads. I'll raise the BS flag if this was done with CMP ammo. LOL.

I didn't know pictures are capable of exaggerating?

The .25 MOA group was shot with HSM 175gr Match Ammo

http://www.snipercentral.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=531

Now I'm waiting on some HSM 208gr Amax to come in

http://www.snipercentral.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=693

 

[TechBrute]

Pfft... I can post plenty of pictures with any size group you want, with whatever caliber you want. I just might have to, um, adjust the distance I shoot them at.

I never said you were lying, but I stand by my statement about probabilities.

 

[kiwiken]

hiya Yarik72. I really like the table....

 

[yarik72]

Pfft... I can post plenty of pictures with any size group you want, with whatever caliber you want. I just might have to, um, adjust the distance I shoot them at.

I never said you were lying, but I stand by my statement about probabilities.

Guess I'll just have to try to do that video I was talking about.

hiya Yarik72. I really like the table....

Thank you sir

 

[lopezni]

Why would you buy a McMillian Stock for a Mossberg? That's like using exotic wood on a red rider bb gun.

 

[yarik72]

Why would you buy a McMillian Stock for a Mossberg? That's like using exotic wood on a red rider bb gun.

That's like asking why would you buy shoes that are comfortable for you?

The Mossberg stock isn't very comfortable. In fact I think it's horrible. I have a Mossberg that shoots very well. I wanted it to be more comfortable in my hands so I bought a stock that was comfortable in my hands.

 

[30mag]

From what I understand, the 100 ATR is based on the Howa design, and I will be another person that says that I've seen at least two ATRs shoot really tight groups with just a little trigger work, free floating and good glass. They were owned by the same guy and shot by him and his son. No idea about what kind of trigger work. Factory stocks though I think.

Why would you buy a McMillian Stock for a Mossberg? That's like using exotic wood on a red rider bb gun.

Seems more like supercharging a regular Mustang GT instead of buying a Shelby and then supercharging it.

 

[goredsox]

Federal has match-grade .30-06 - http://www.federalpremium.com/products/rifle.aspx

Altamont is making the wood stocks for the Mossberg ATR. - www.altamontco.com
-they're currently out of in-house stock as Mossberg is consuming all of their production at the moment.
-keep watching their website. I was told that they'll soon have some more in-house rifle-stocks for sale (around $150 for the wood ATR, either birch or walnut)

This all came to me as I looked high&low for a wood ATR with fluted barrel to take on an October moose hunt. Nobody in my state had the wood, and the distributor wasn't showing any in their systems. So I bought black synthetic and set about trying to replace the black synthetic.

Mossberg told me the best they would do is replace my black with Realtree AP if I sent back the rifle with a $40 check. But no wood.

So now I'm just watching the Altamont site, unless one of you has better intel...

 

[tkopp]

Why would you buy a McMillian Stock for a Mossberg? That's like using exotic wood on a red rider bb gun.

Because it's a Mossberg that shot .25" groups. That's like a Red Ryder crafted by Asgardian Dwarves on a forge fired by cuttings from Yggdrasil to be carried into battle by Thor.

 

[paintballdude902]

not trying to be a skeptic just slightly confused. how do you get a .25" group when shooting a .30 projectile. its just something that confused me

 

[tkopp]

You measure from center to center, to determine the spread of the shots. Or, more accurately, the outside of one hole to the opposite outside of the other, then subtracting the width of the bullet. What's being measured is not the final hole, but the consistency of the shots.

 

[Kernel]

 

[Dionysusigma]

Because it's a Mossberg that shot .25" groups. That's like a Red Ryder crafted by Asgardian Dwarves on a forge fired by cuttings from Yggdrasil to be carried into battle by Thor.

I am stealing this and putting it in my signature.

 

[yarik72]

I might just engrave "crafted by Asgardian Dwarves on a forge fired by cuttings from Yggdrasil to be carried into battle by Thor" into my stock




jk

 

[rozziboy18]

my .02

do able, i had to spend 2800.00 to do it but do able

just saying

 

[rozziboy18]

ok ive ben shooting for years and years and year, chasing the ''bug hole'' group, ive come close but never with a walmart 3006, not trying to be a dick but ill believe it when i see it.

this is the best i could do with kimber 8400 tactical 308 and a mark 4 6.5-20x50 scope shooting out of a bench vice with a load that took months and 1000's of miles on my truck to work up. all that for one little hole.






oh for all the people im my last post that said i missed the quarter!

the best true, for real 200 yard group i could shoot if my life depended on it!

 

[yarik72]

Mele at Sniper Central was able to achieve a .352" group with his first outing with your particular rifle and factory ammo.

http://www.snipercentral.com/kimber8400.phtml

 

[kis2]

i'm pretty sure the most unbelievable part about this thread is that dwarf comment i had to go wash my hands to get the nerd off

i don't pretend to be experienced enough to comment on the realisticness of that group. What i do know is my stock 700p can do .5moa groups with my handloads off a bipod and bone support. and thats with me behind it, so that should prove anything is possible

that mcmillan stock really looks great! what was your position when you got those groups? what i mean to ask is benchrest/vice or what? i'll be curious about your post blue print groups, not a lot of room to go.

 

[yarik72]

With the particular .25" groups i was using sandbags up front and the back. Although lately ive been trying to practice more without a bag in the rear and using my hand instead and have been getting good results as well, just not .25" groups.

 

[kis2]

awesome, well nice work. maybe i should revert to a rear bag for testing my handloads...

 

[yarik72]

i find it to be more stable

 

[paintballdude902]

You measure from center to center, to determine the spread of the shots. Or, more accurately, the outside of one hole to the opposite outside of the other, then subtracting the width of the bullet. What's being measured is not the final hole, but the consistency of the shots.

ah thank you i never fully understood that. i always measured from furthest point to furthest point.

 

[SandHornet]

Mossberg 100 ATR worth the $

I can definitely believe the sub-moa accuracy posted here. I have a 100 ATR in .30-06 with the Centerpoint 4-16x40 scope from wally world, $70, and though I don't remember exactly what I was shooting and didn't know how to rate the moa accuracy at the time, I was shooting 150gr winchester power point bullets and hitting all within 1/2" or less at 100 yards using the cheap Kolpin gun vise from wally world also. I wasn't that happy with it at the time because I was comparing it to my dad's Savage 7mm rem mag with a new 3-9x40 bushnell trophy class and remington core-lokt bullets, which was hitting almost exactly twice as accurate.
It might not be as accurate at longer ranges, and of course it isn't a competition rifle, but for most hunting purposes with shots up to a few hundred hards, I don't see you beating this combo for the money, ESPECIALLY considering that if something were to happen, like dropping the firearm for whatever reason, the most you'd be out is like 250 for the rifle and 70 for the scope, 320$ altogether, I can afford to go hunting with it in any weather condition, etc., and not worry about scratching it or dropping it and losing a huge investment. Touch it up with a black sharpie and it's good as new.
I have a stainless Savage 111 in .300 Win Mag now, but when I think of taking something out on the four wheeler to go in the woods with, that I know will take down my target in a single shot, yeah I'm taking the Mossy 100 ATR.