Well generally I am not on scene with my firearm in detention facilities and I spend the vast majority of my life not in the presence of law enforcement/security personnel. I tend to think about how quickly these things don't go down when there aren't a bunch of cops in the immediate area. I mean, look at how fast the cops engaged this active shooter, right?
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Officers were on scene quickly at the Tyler Square shooting, being as officers worked in the courthouse on the square of the shooting. Of course, it was a CCW, Mark Wilson, credited with wounding the shooter, not the cops.
JohnKSa mentioned the Allen shooting and the cop already being on scene. He was on scene. It still took him 4 minutes to find and down the shooter. FOUR minutes is a long time to not be drawing a gun and defending yourself out of fear that responding cops might have some issues with threat assessment.
Compare that with the response of officers making entry on the Orlando Pulse night club shooting. Aside from the officer on duty at the door, once the shooter was inside, he had a lot of time. Eventually, it turned into a standoff, he had so much time.
Maybe you are a teacher carrying illegally at your school in Florida when a student starts shooting people, but you don't draw your gun out of fear the award winning SRO will appear and dispatch the shooter before he kills you or your students, and that might be the case of the SRO wasn't cowering outside and actually keeping other responders from coming to save you.
Then again, maybe you want to wish you did draw your gun and engage the bad guy so that maybe the cops wouldn't become the mass shooters themselves, right? Cops responded to an active shooter in the Empire State Building and ended up engaging him on the street. They got the shooter and 9 other people in the process - NINE. Of course, here the good news is that only 3 non-involved civilians were hit by direct fire and the other 6 by ricochets. The officers fired a total of 16 rounds, killing 1 bad guy and injuring 9 non-involved civilians.
Of course in the case of the OP's detention facility incident, the officers were there really fast, 2 minutes and 39 seconds from the time of the call to arrive on scene. Fortunately, the gunman was exiting the facility with a hostage when the cops arrived, so there wasn't the delay that we saw at places like the school shooting in Nashville waiting for the officers to post up in teams to make entry.
It has been shown time and again that having a gun doesn't get you shot.
And then once in a while, you do get shot, sometimes even if you are the hero who has already neutralized the threat and you are trying to secure the weapon in case the threat re-alives.
Never mind all the friendly fire incidents on off duty or under cover cops, such as this one where the responding officer saw the homeowner and off duty officer (already stabbed many times) with a GUN heading into the residence and shoots the threat. Never mind that the actual bad guy is inside, trying to get the off duty officer's wife.
Officer Don Sahota was shot and killed after a robbery suspect fleeing law enforcement ended up outside his home. On January 29th, 2022, law enforcement agencies local to the Sahota home were involved in a vehicle pursuit with an armed...
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The point is, every situation is unique. No one rule is going to fit all situations. I would be just as concerned drawing my gun in a mass shooting as I would in a robbery. After all, how do I know that anyone around me isn't an off duty cop or armed citizen with situational awareness deficits and may be more prone to harm me than the threat I am engaging? Brendon McKowning the situation isn't good either.
