This is why the sheep fear guns!!

[Tomcat1066]

www.nola.com/news/t-p/metro/index.ssf?/base/news-15/1152685594130100.xml&coll=1

In this article, here's some of the quotes:

Equipped with a folding bayonet and armor-piercing rounds, the rifle is a cheap and highly effective weapon -- the predecessor of the AK-47 -- that can blast through engine blocks as easily as it can bones, said Louis Faust, one of nearly 20 NOPD tactical officers who arrested five people, including Thomas.

And...

Faust said the steel core bullets used in an SKS strike the body then follow bone, so a bullet can "enter your shoulder and come out of your toe."

When LEO's spout this BS, the sheep listen. No mention of how the SKS is considered a second tier rifle, and that even the sunsetted AWB allowed them to be sold legally. No mention of how it's still illegal for criminals to get them.

To say nothing of how this "officer" boosts the effectiveness of the 7.62x39mm round to the point of absurdity. Let's be honest, if we didn't know better, it would be easy to interpret this article as the SKS being more dangerous than anything else on the street

Tom

 

[the 22 junkie]

Cut them some slack, they're NOPD, of course they know what they're talking about with that brainiac chief in office.

(PS: As stupid as some LEO's are when it comes to guns and gun ocntrol/ lets try and not make this a cop bashing thread, mkay?)

 

[ccw007]

• the predecessor of the AK-47 -- that can blast through engine blocks as easily as it can bones, said Louis Faust.
• Faust said the steel core bullets used in an SKS strike the body then follow bone, so a bullet can "enter your shoulder and come out of your toe."

You cannot have it both ways :banghead:

 

[Henry Bowman]

said Louis Faust, one of nearly 20 NOPD tactical officers

But he's a "tactical officer," so it must be true.

 

[Tomcat1066]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash LEOs. My father is an LEO, and has been my whole life. It's the vocal idiots who happen to be LEOs that make the sheep fear guns. Somehow the badge gives those people more of a leg to stand on than you or me who studies firearms for our own, personal reason.

Tom

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

The SKS sells for as little as $100 in the streets and is highly accurate, Faust said. And the high-caliber ammunition it uses is meant for maximum bodily damage.

Hahaha! Ask those tactical cops if they'd trade in their issue M-16/AR-15 for an SKS.
Steel core bullets? Hmm, perhaps she misinterpreted the construction of Wolf ammunition?

 

[Lupinus]

they do listen, because to them being a cop is a symbol of authority and knowlege

Just like when a mechanic tells a woman something completly wrong so he can get more money out of her, you try and say something, you get a sneer she thinks a moment but in the end listens to the person who in her mind knows more, the mechanic.

People choose to believe those who they think should know the most about the subject. Reguardless of what the subject is.

 

[myusername]

Our wonderful nopd, they won't take the time to learn the law but they can remember all of this crap.

 

[HankB]

Just like when a mechanic tells a woman something completly wrong so he can get more money out of her, you try and say something, you get a sneer she thinks a moment but in the end listens to the person who in her mind knows more, the mechanic.

And she'll willingly pay to have her muffler bearings and tail light fluid changed. (Unless she's a mechanic herself, in which case I pity the poor guy working at the garage.)

This sort of thing isn't new - when they were talking about the "Black Talon" ammo, Jane Pauley described how it could hit you in the hip, zip up to your shoulder, zip across to the other shoulder, and then zip down and out, whirling like a buzz saw the whole time as it carved out a grapefruit-diameter wound channel . . . and she had a graphic her "news" team had created to illustrate all this!

Thought to take away: When you hear this sort of nonsense spouted off about something you know about (such as firearms) just consider . . . are they credible when they talk about things you don't know that much about?

 

[pcf]

Steel core 7.62x39 is banned by Federal Law, there's is no way that the criminals have possessed those.

 

[jrou111]

"Trymaine Lee can be reached at [email protected] or (504) 826-330. "

 

[priv8ter]

Nope!

Hankb said:

Thought to take away: When you hear this sort of nonsense spouted off about something you know about (such as firearms) just consider . . . are they credible when they talk about things you don't know that much about?

I learned this a long time ago. In my former life as a sailor, I was on the commisioning crew of a new class of submarines. Some of the stuff I would read about our boat used to make me giggle. And this isn't just MSM(Main Steam Media)...this was Popular Mechanics.

Helped turn me into the cynical curmudgeon in training I am today.

greg

 

[wingnutx]

I learned this a long time ago. In my former life as a sailor, I was on the commisioning crew of a new class of submarines. Some of the stuff I would read about our boat used to make me giggle.

I was stationed on the USS Cape Cod (AD-43) when the Weekly World News had a front-page picture of us capturing a sea monster that looked like a brontosaurus with flippers. We were on westpac when tons of those started arriving in the mail.

 

[sparx]

This sort of thing isn't new - when they were talking about the "Black Talon" ammo, Jane Pauley described how it could hit you in the hip, zip up to your shoulder, zip across to the other shoulder, and then zip down and out, whirling like a buzz saw the whole time as it carved out a grapefruit-diameter wound channel . . . and she had a graphic her "news" team had created to illustrate all this!

Ah HA! So that's where Faust got his expert knowledge!

 

[vynx]

This reminds me of when I was in 6th grade (1967,68) our teacher had a serviceman come talk to our classroom (can't remember his uniform but I'm thinking Marine recruiter). He told us of a coward in basic training that tried to get out of going to Vietnam by shooting himself in the foot. The NEW M-16 round enterred his foot and shatterred his leg bones all the way up to his hip and now he is crippled for life!

Even at that young age I was kind of doubtful about that story. But hey, a real Marine told us so it must be true!

 

[Hook686]

... Let's be honest, if we didn't know better, it would be easy to interpret this article as the SKS being more dangerous than anything else on the street

Tom
__________________

Oh my ! It is, isn't it ?

 

[nwgunslinger]

The SKS sells for as little as $100 in the streets and is highly accurate, Faust said.

I would just love to challenge him to a shooting contest. Give him the "highly accurate" SKS and I'll take just about anything else and probably beat him. Hell, an AK-47 is probably more accurate than that piece of junk.

 

[Pilgrim]

From the wisdom of Robert Heinlein:

The capacity of the human mind for swallowing nonsense and spewing it forth in violent and repressive action has never yet been plumbed.

* Revolt in 2100 (1953), postscript

 

[Lone_Gunman]

The title of this thread is misleading.

"Sheep" used in the context you mean refers to people unable to take care of themselves. They rely on others to defend them.

Anyone who isn't familiar with the SKS will be mislead by the officers comment, whether they are a sheep or not.

There have been a few threads lately that seem to be trying to make "sheep" mean anyone not familiar with firearms. Whether or not one is a sheep is an issue of mindset, not hardware.

 

[gezzer]

Our wonderful nopd, they won't take the time to learn the law but they can remember all of this crap.

+1

 

[CajunBass]

I was stationed on the USS Cape Cod (AD-43) when the Weekly World News had a front-page picture of us capturing a sea monster that looked like a brontosaurus with flippers. We were on westpac when tons of those started arriving in the mail.

Wait. Don't try to tell me that didn't happen. I know "THEY" won't let you tell the truth. Next you'll be trying to tell me that those GI's didn't really capture Satan over in Iraq but I know better.

 

[CZ 75 BD]

N. O. P. D.

"Not Our Problem, Dude"

 

[jazurell]

I'm not familiar with the SKS. Maybe someone who is would be willing to write an editorial to the paper explaining the truth. It's worth a try and would get the publicity to the place where the damage was done....if they print it. Certainly worth the effort.

 

[EasternShore]

that can blast through engine blocks

Please of please tell me where I can get an SKS that blasts right through engine blocks! and for less than $100.

I am so tired of this myth, has the box of truth addressed this? I have shot many o' target and when it comes down to it solid metal like the type found in a block is damn hard to penatrate. At best with a .50 you might get through a cylinder wall, good luck just punching through a whole block. Oh these myths drive me crazy :banghead:

 

[Lupinus]

motercycle engine block maybe