This Isn't a 9mm Carbine...

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I asked for input about the various 9mm pistol caliber carbines a couple of months back. And one is still on my "want it" list. But I'm also a fan of Mannlicher-style stocks, and somehow this is what followed me home recently...

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It's a CZ527FS in .223 Remington. My initial impressions are generally positive. It's lightweight, well-balanced and just barely big enough to house a .223 cartridge. The trigger is a single-set unit. In unset mode, it doesn't feel too bad. Without a trigger gauge, my off-the-cuff guess is about 4-lbs as delivered. In set mode, WOW! Again, just an off-the-cuff estimate about 1.5-lbs. There is a lot of trigger travel after it breaks in set mode. It doesn't bother me at all, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

I took it out this morning and was able to put about 40 rounds of 55gr FMJ ammo through it. A box of Wolf Gold .223 and a box of Independence 5.56mm. Due to the cold, I only shot it at 50 yards. The balance and good trigger made offhand shooting a natural. I'm not ready to pass accuracy judgment yet, just enough to say initial results are promising even with generic ball ammo.

Now it's not all sunshine and roses. The single-column magazine is a little stick to load. And it's very stiff feeding rounds from the magazine. The inside of the feed lips on the magazine appear to be in need of polishing. Either that or wearing in with some use should improve how smoothly rounds strip from the magazine.

Next up, I need to decide what to do for scoping it. Right now I'm leaning toward a Leupold fixed 4x, but we'll see what ends up jumping off the shelf when the time comes.
 
As an owner of several CZ 527’s I believe the magazine design and latching mechanism is very sensitive to how tight the bedding screws are. Too tight and you’ll struggle inserting and removing mags and consequently you may have feeding issues. That’s probably my biggest issue with the rifle. I piller bed the action and the problem goes away but bedding must be done carefully or you’ll always battle the issue.
 
I love these rifles! Yours has some beautiful dark wood. It's a looker!

I currently own 3 model 527's and enjoy all 3. I agree that the magazine can be a bit finicky. One of mine will sometimes try to hang when feeding the top round. Also the bolts can tend to be a little rough when new but smooths out as it gets broken in.

Other than that, they are nicely built rifles that are light and handy. The fully adjustable triggers allow you to set them up to suit your needs and you can also adjust the set trigger to be bench rest light or you can pretend it doesn't exist.

Mine all have proven to be quality shooters. I have a 223 in the Varmint model with a heavy 25.5" bbl(I think), and a .204 Ruger in the American model, and a 7.62x39 in a Carbine model. The x39mm in the Carbine is one of the most fun rifles I own but all 3 are a joy.
 
Very cool looking. I always wondered- how do those stocks affect barrel harmonics?
Every time I see a Mannlicher, I wonder the same. I would imagine it would vary on each gun. Would a good laminate, though it wouldn't look as good, work better?
 
Every time I see a Mannlicher, I wonder the same. I would imagine it would vary on each gun. Would a good laminate, though it wouldn't look as good, work better?

It certainly can vary gun to gun. I have a CZ452FS in .22LR that shoots very well, almost as well as the 452 American I have to go with it. (There's also a 452 Lux in the set, but I haven't really spent any time bench testing that rifle to see what it can truly do.) The Ruger Internationals have a reputation for being hit-and-miss, which is probably well-deserved. One of my all-time favorite looking Mannlicher stocks is the laminate Model Seven from the Remington Custom Shop. I've wanted one of those in .350 Remington Magnum for longer than I can remember. I've handled a few CZ550FS, and while I really like how they look, they are amazingly heavy.

Thanks for the input on the feeding and bedding on the 527s. My Google research had indicated several possible contributors to that balkiness. Right now my plan is to run a couple hundred rounds through it and see what happens. I'll be happy to report back on it's accuracy, likely once it begins to warm up around here and I have a scope mounted. I'm really hoping I can make it shoot acceptably with 69gr Nosler HPBTs, as I have a large stash of them leftover from shooting Highpower.
 
I very much like that rifle; it is very practical for a walkabout carbine as it sits. I will suggest that adding a scope will change its value, and not necessarily for the better – that stock will not provide a proper cheek weld with an optic and the rifle will definitely lose some of its handling grace.

That rifle begs for a rear aperture sight, and a proper sling.
 
Nice rifle. One of those stick type diamond fish hook sharpener gadgets that has a groove on one side and is flat on the other makes an excellent tool for knocking the flash off stamped steel parts including magazines.
 
My 550FS in .30-06 is free-floated in that Mannlicher stock, so barrel harmonics are no issue at all.
Where the Ruger International is not free-floated, the CZ doesn't string vertically with heat like the Ruger does.
Denis
 
I love the OP’s carbine, but then I have a soft spot for mannlicher carbines. When I was a kid my dad had a Savage M99-H carbine (.250-3000) with a full stock for a while - but sold it before I was old enough to hunt. Of course I loved it. But it was a long time before I obtained a full-stocked carbine of my own.

My 2000-vintage stainless 10/22 came with a factory pepper laminate mannlicher stock. The stock doesn’t touch the barrel, but the steel forend tip did from the factory. I bedded it to the stock so there is no contact, and also bedded the first few inchs of the barrel onto stock. It doesn’t change POI with the weather, and aggs under 2 moa with decent ammo.


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I very much like that rifle; it is very practical for a walkabout carbine as it sits. I will suggest that adding a scope will change its value, and not necessarily for the better – that stock will not provide a proper cheek weld with an optic and the rifle will definitely lose some of its handling grace.

That rifle begs for a rear aperture sight, and a proper sling.

Thanks! Up until the last couple of years I also would've favored swapping on an aperture sight. Unfortunately I've had to accept that a scope eases the workload on my eyes. This realization started when I noticed Colt put a fuzzy front sight on my 6920. And would you believe it, CZ put a fuzzy sight on my 452FS too!:( (Luckily they remembered to install a nice, sharp front sight on my 452 Lux.)

I will keep the scope as small and light as possible. Having scoped both the 452 Lux and FS, I know the hogback stock works OK for me shooting offhand and sitting with a scope. In fact, I rather prefer it as it let's me shoot more of a head's up standing position, which is great for balance.

My gut instinct is to put a Leupold fixed 2.5x ultralight on it. But I fear it won't be quite enough magnification on a .223.
 
That's a beautiful 223 you've got there! Looks like it was worth the wait!

Ruger 10-22 is the only Manlicher stocked weapon I've got, but I'm not sure why o_O

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Thanks for the heads up on that. CZ 527 peep, it looks like just the thing for my Henry "Evil Roy" I've tried a Williams but it was too tall.
 
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