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Well it happened last nite. Here is the deal My wife and I pull in the driveway comming home from dinner, as I get out of the car this Lady comes running up to me PLEASE HELP! someone is chasing me with a knife and trying to kill me. Please help me she keeps saying. I am looking around for who is after her while I am calling 911 We take her into our house and im trying to get info from the upset women to give to the police, they say they are on the way.
All of a sudden it hits me I have a CCW put I have no gun on me, We went to eat at a cafe that serves drinks and could not carry there. My gun I always carry is locked up in my work truck and the guns in the house are in the safe locked up. The police got the lady who was after the lady at my house two doors away and she had stabbed someone else at the house down the sreet where this all started.
By the way this is very rare to have anything happen in our plat. Never expected this. After its over my wife says at least I felt better knowing you had your gun!!! well I did not , but this will not happen again It was a lesson learned.
You think you are ready but anything can happen at any time.
 
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f4t9r,
Understood your prediction. Remember, you follow the laws. BGs don't.
Unless you're clarevoyant, this is why you try to carry as much as possible.

I was visiting my in-laws one night when we heard a cry for help from what sounded like a girl. It was dark outside and I did what I normally did, peered out a side window while asking my in-laws not to open the door. Since they are one generation older than me, they argued with me that someone was calling for help and they should let her in.

I was a lot more suspicious and it paid off when after a few minutes, a car finally drove by and its headbeams lit up a second figure crouching down behind some bushes where the girl was kneeling. After a few more minutes, we hear some arguing outside and they stood up walking down the street arguing... the police didn't show up until 45 minutes later.

On the news, about 10 blocks away, some people were held hostages for over an hour after they had been pistol whipped and terrorized. The broadcasted description fit the general body features of the two people outside the house trying to trick their way into my in-laws house.

Be more suspicious and live a lot longer. Good luck.

I had my guns on me even though my in-laws disapprove. I just keep them concealed like they're supposed to be.
 
When I was young, a fellow came to our door pleading for help. He was bloody and said someone had cut him with a knife and was chasing him. My dad grabbed his pistol and brought the guy in the house. My dad called the cops while my mom was giving 1st aid. When the cops arrived, they took this guy into custody. Seems he'd gone off the deep end and had just killed someone and ran thru a glass door trying to get away. My dad felt like a fool and has never forgotten that nite. This was over 40 years ago.
 
f4t9r-
Unless you plan to be drinking I'd recomend leave the gun in the locked glovebox when you go in and replace it when you leave next time. Only exception if you drink enough to be impared just flat out leave it home.

As for not letting strangers in I agree. I will cal lthe police if someone comes up I will do my best to keep them away from you, but you aint coming in the house there are to many crazies out there that make it to much of a threat.
 
Same thing happened to me, only I just forgot my gun that morning. The girl was being chased by a crazy BF. I hid her behind a privacy fence, gave her some pepper spray and then called the police. Then I stood guard with a crowbar until the police arrives. I have not forgotten my carry gun since.

In Michigan, you have to determine if the place is a bar or a restaurant. If they serve pickled eggs and peanuts, it's a bar. Anything more I considered it a restaurant.

I'm actually not sure out here in Colorado. I'm assuming Colorado is a little more thoughtful about where you can carry.
 
Good guys, you are. I'd do the same - protect the innocent and yet be on guard if the sheep turns to wolf. Anyway here it's a whole different story - people get beat up on the street in the middle of the city by gangers while everybody goes around and keep their distance as the may too get kicked.
 
Having to leave my gun in the car in Montana is a regular occurence. If I go into a restaurant that serves alcohol, I can not legally carry. Even if the bar is seperate from the dining area.

So, I take out my gun, leave it in the car and reholster as soon as I leave. Hopefully nothing happens in the parking lot some night. I have been writing officials about this, and suggesting a 51% rule like some states, but it has gotten nowhere.

bob
 
yiu are surprised that your elected officials arn't giving consideration to the concerns of a mere mortal?
 
For sure,, check the carry rules there with PD. The way the law is worded where I reside is, establisments primary business serving alcohol = no guns

I don't even know exactly what that means and error on the side of caution until further clarification.

It would seem that here, I can carry in restaurants that serve booze but probably not bars that serve food .. ..
 
Here's a true story about an off-duty police officer who THOUGHT that he had his weapon! It turned out okay, fortunately, but there's some humor involved.

It's actually about TWO police officers, husband and wife, who went into their bank together. They had to stand in line, and as soon as one of the bank tellers finished with a customer, they stepped to her position. The bank teller had a frightened look on her face, and the husband asked "Did you just get held up?". The bank teller said yes.

The husband had seen the face of that customer, and since the robbery had JUST occurred, he decided to take action by exiting the bank. When he went to the side where he usually wore his off-duty revolver, it wasn't there! He had left it at home!
Well, he turned toward his wife and asked, "Honey, do you have your gun?". She opened her purse and handed him her revolver, then the husband scooted out of the bank.

The husband actually DID see the robbery suspect, as he was getting into a parked car! The husband was able to get the drop on the suspect, haul him out of the car and hold him at gunpoint until the on-duty police arrived. The suspect had merely used a robbery note, and wasn't armed.

When the husband went back inside the bank, paramedics were working on the bank teller. "What happened?", the huband asked his wife. She replied, "Well, when you asked me for my gun and I gave it to you, the bank teller FAINTED and hit her head!"

Guns are sort of like American Express cards....
"Don't leave home without it!"
 
Right on Air Force!!!!!!
Find a smaller carry piece, one that disapears when you carry it,even a small .22 can save your life.. If you don't show it, it'll never become a factor. Putting it in your glove box and having it stolden from there while your eating opens up another can of worms! BG's don't follow ANY rules, and aren't going to put their gun "out in the car" because of a sign.
Stay safe, keep your loved ones safe. I'll worry about a trial later........
CraigJS
 
Umm... ExtremeDooty...

you had better checkm your Michigan laws again...

the law is "if they serve open alcohol (read: tap beer, mixed drinks, shots) you MAY NOT CARRY A FIREARM ON THE PREMISES...

this "restaraunt" thing you speak of is total BS...
 
Good guys obey the law. Calling the police on a cell phone was the correct thing to do.

How do you know if the woman was telling the truth? You are not a sworn officer. You have no obligation to untangle the bizarre circumstances and much to lose by jumping in with a foolhardy attitude.

You did right under circumstances of duress. Good job.
 
ExtremeDooty said:
I'm actually not sure out here in Colorado. I'm assuming Colorado is a little more thoughtful about where you can carry.
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AFAIK, you can carry anywhere that does not specifically prohibit weapons. So, unless a bar has a "no weapons" sign of sorts posted, you are good to go. But don't get intoxicated. I could be mistaken, but I believe the rules for BAC are the same for guns as they are automobiles. More than .05% and you're in trouble.
 
+ 1 standing wolf. 24-7 keeps it simple. If it aint legal to carry I won't go in unless I am forced to. ie couthouse, school, or poling place. I can live w/o the eating establishments that post a legal no arms sign. If the state law is no conceal carry if alcohol is served inside then if they want alcohol & not my pistol they can have it. My wife & money always go w/ my pistol. :) (and my wife's pistol too.) :D (and my Mother's if she is with us.) :what: :uhoh:
 
MAY NOT CARRY A FIREARM ON THE PREMISES IN Michigan

Hemicuda said:
you had better checkm your Michigan laws again...

the law is "if they serve open alcohol (read: tap beer, mixed drinks, shots) you MAY NOT CARRY A FIREARM ON THE PREMISES...

this "restaraunt" thing you speak of is total BS...
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Here is current Michigan Law from the State Police.

Premises On Which Carrying Concealed Weapon Prohibited can be found in
MCL 28.425o or on the Michigan State Police Web Site.

Beginning July 1, 2001, individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state will be prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol in the following areas:

1. *Schools or school property but may carry in the while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian. (Act 719 allows carry in parking lots. See below)

2. Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.

3. Sports arena or stadium

4. A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises

5. Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons

6. An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

7. A hospital

8. A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

9. A Casino

10. Premises does not include parking areas of the above places
 
Thank you LaVere

4. A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises
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for looking that up.

I don't frequent bars, so I never cared enough to look it up. My NRA class instructor went over this in a technical way, but summed it up with anyone with some common sense can tell the difference between a Bar and a Restaurant. Then we reviewed the part about "Concealed is concealed."
 
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