CapnMac
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Generally they mike to the same dimensions as other GI parts.
If you have the full Data Package, it's just as easy to make things to the exact specs as to any other specification.
TISAS' "Armed Services" 1911A1
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If you have the full Data Package, it's just as easy to make things to the exact specs as to any other specification.
halfmoonclip
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BTW, one gripe with the earlier TISA's 1911s...the hammer likes to bite; I experienced it, as did a buddy with one. A little file work on the rear of the hammer tidies up the problem.
Moon
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What’s the goobered up right side of the slide?
It looks like a couple casting voids that were exposed by machining??
Lennyjoe
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That’s my attempt to edit photo to cover serial number….lol
AlexanderA
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It remains to be seen what the actual availability of this clone gun will be in the commercial channels. After all, its intended market is collectors and reenactors, not shooters.
I expect that it will be hard to find.
I expect that it will be hard to find.
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Boom Vang
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If you want a GI-style 1911 as a shooter, this is a great choice. If you want a GI-style 1911 made to the same spec - just to have one - this is a good choice.
If you want a "collectable" 1911, it's not a good choice. But "collectable" anything costs more money.
I like shooting original-style 1911s. But I'm not going to risk damaging my 1917 Colt 1911 or my 1943 Remington Rand 1911A1. I have the Colt WWI 1911 re-issues from about 15 years ago, and I'm not shooting those either.
This Tisas is easy to enjoy shooting at this price. And it's quality.
If you want a "collectable" 1911, it's not a good choice. But "collectable" anything costs more money.
I like shooting original-style 1911s. But I'm not going to risk damaging my 1917 Colt 1911 or my 1943 Remington Rand 1911A1. I have the Colt WWI 1911 re-issues from about 15 years ago, and I'm not shooting those either.
This Tisas is easy to enjoy shooting at this price. And it's quality.
AlexanderA
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Reproductions become collectables in their own right. Just price out a Pedersoli Brown Bess, for example. When they're discontinued, they become even more valuable. Example: the Miroku M1861 / M1863 Springfield. In some cases, the prices of good discontinued reproductions exceed the prices of originals. The reason is that, like you, people don't want to shoot (or use in reenactments, etc.) the originals.
I consider this Tisas to be a reproduction of a WW2 M1911. Probably the first one that is being sold as such. All "GI models," prior to this, were quite different from the originals. For example, a lowered ejection port automatically excludes the gun. Every so-called "improvement" takes it that much farther from the originals.
riverats
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Per the TisasUSA website:
Tisas does not use any cast metal parts on our firearms. The use of quality MIM parts on some models was used in prior generations of our 1911 products but in mid-2022 we began moving away from use of those parts. Tisas models produced after 11/1/2022 contain machined internal parts with the exception of the recoil spring plug which will continue to be a MIM part at a time to be determined.
In my experience, both the Tisas M1911-A1 US Army & the (10mm) 1911 D10 readily* accept USGI & commercial mags, parts, etc…
* as with most all 1911s, some minor parts fitting may be required.
Photo of my Tisas M1911-A1 (left) & my pal’s (9th Infantry Div.) father’s 1943 Colt 1911A1, which saw action beginning in N. Africa right up to VE Day in Cherbourg, FR.
Same Tisas with late-war USGI (stamped) trigger & Ithaca grip panels/panel screws. If you zoom into the top photo, you’ll notice a discrepancy between the Tisas & USGI 1911-A1, i.e., the configuration of the mag release screw (slot).
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CapnMac
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The fact that the SKU lists this as "US Army" in the description does suggest a possible "US NAVY" version down the line. Given that the legit copies are selling for used car prices suggest that there might be some market there.
Lennyjoe
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riverats
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Sounds plausible, having previously released a 1911-A1 U.S.M.C. model
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Can’t go wrong for that price
The marker line over the serial # just below the text on the frame isn’t what I’m asking about. Just ahead of the dust cover on the frame appears to be a hole in the slide.
Lennyjoe
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please forgive my total ignorance…if i want a 45acp shooter, i.e. reliable, smooth, $400ish, do i get a tisas, or filipino, m1911? or a glock? springfield xd?
i really enjoy 45acp out of a ruger blackhawk but im thinking that i need a semiauto pistol chambered in 45acp. i’m mostly a revolver guy and i’m not a recoil junkie. in a few more years racking a stiff slide may become no-go. thanks much in advance for your advice!
i really enjoy 45acp out of a ruger blackhawk but im thinking that i need a semiauto pistol chambered in 45acp. i’m mostly a revolver guy and i’m not a recoil junkie. in a few more years racking a stiff slide may become no-go. thanks much in advance for your advice!
JTQ
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I'm a long time 1911 guy, but I typically recommend against them to folks who aren't convinced the 1911 is right for them.
If you just like .45 Auto, an S&W M&P, Glock G21, Beretta PX4, SIG P220, HK USP or HK45 are probably better options.
md7
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There’s several good non 1911 options in 45ACP. Sig 220, MP 45, Glock 21 if it fits your hand.
But I do also think there are some pretty good, lower cost and reliable 1911 options too.
Lots of Tisas owners are giving good reports. SA Mil Spec, Ronin, and Garrison generally run well out of the box. Not a bad way to go for a 1911 in 45 acp at entry level cost.
JTQ
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I'm sorry for not putting 2 an 2 together faster.
The common saying in the 1911 world is "there are no drop in parts in a 1911".
In addition, the comments I always make to folks looking for their first 1911 is to decide on what kind of sights you want, and whether or not you want/need a beavertail grip safety (not all grip safeties are beavertail grip safeties).
If you choose wrong on these, you're going to spend some time, effort, and money, either grinding or welding on your gun.
Not all 1911's have the same sight dovetails and not all sight options are available for all sight dovetails. For instance, just in the Colt line-up, there are at least 3 different rear sight dovetails. Add in all the other makers and all their variations on common dovetails, and you could find yourself with limited aftermarket sight options if you choose poorly. Additionally, not all grip tangs accept all grip safeties.
CapnMac
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Which is tricky, as USMC never marked theirs. Some few "US Navy" ones went into the field with Marines, but the Navy Department just never bought that many with the roll mark on them.
CapnMac
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Saw today that Bud's has the "Service Special" on sale for US$329:
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product...il&utm_term=$329.99&utm_campaign=bgsgab011824
They are listing the "US ARMY" version for US$367:
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/115201/sds+1911a1+.45+acp+5+7rd+black
CapnMac
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For $400, you are going to be hard pressed to go wrong with TISAS or RIA/Armscor (Philippines)
SDS Imports may has the best selection of "Teasauce" right now.
Now, are they "hard to rack"? Dunno, they as smooth to me, but, I've been racking 1911A1 since I was about 13, so I'm not sure I'm best for advising you.
Kahr, under their Auto Ordinance dba label has a good "service configured" 1911. They run to about US$450.
Your best bet is to find a gun store where you can get your actual hands on one to be able to tell. Now, that shop might not have the best price, that's a separate consideration.
I prefer the 45 ACP cartridge, however, I am NOT a fan of self loaders. Might have something to do with the fact I have nearly 60 years experience with revolvers and almost no experience with self loaders.
So, my advice to you, what is your use for this 1911? Range toy? Sure, get one or two. Competition? Self defense? Home protection? EDC? Get two identical Tisas and lots of training. Not shooting, training. Anyone can shoot a gun. A trained person can operate it.Go to classes that teach you how to work through malfunctions, how to clear jams, how to field strip and clean them. Go to as many of the classes as you can until you know your two pistols like the back of your hand.
My elder brother started with 1911s when I was learning S&W revolvers. He is very proficient with 1911s, I am very proficient with a 45 ACP, N frame. But, as he approaching 80, he is finding it harder to rack the slide. He is also finding ACP recoil to be tiring. He has switched to a 9mm, 1911 but racking is still an issue.
These are all things to consider.
Hopefully some food for thought.
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Thank you! That looks very nice. If I didn’t already have 6 1911s I’d look one up. I suppose one of these days I’ll feel my wallet jerking around in my pocket while walking by the handgun case at one of my local gun shops.
It’s happened many times before!
CapnMac
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Also, TISAS has teamed up with CMP, to make a CMP version of the US Army version, which is part of the reason that they went for such accurate markings.
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