Titan Gun Vault—lockout mode?

[birdus]

I have a Titan Gun Vault (Simplex lock). The manual says:

"A lockout feature deters continued random entry of combinations to gain access"

A local locksmith told me there is no lockout mode that he knows of. I believe I have entered the correct combination, but the safe isn't opening. Is there, in fact, a lockout mode that I need to reset before trying to get in if I have entered multiple incorrect combinations?

I e-mailed Titan and they didn't reply to me.

Thanks,
Jay

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Simplex mechanical lock? If so, I didn't know they had a lock out mode either other than having to turn the knob possibly to allow a new combo to be tried.

 

[JTHunter]

Is it an electronic lock or a manual dial lock? If electronic, could the batteries on the keypad be low?

 

[Skgreen]

If electronic, and anything like our office software, it could be that after a certain number of attempts, it requires a certain amount of time to pass before it accepts any new attempts.

 

[jar]

Use the backup key to open the safe.

If it is a digital lock replace the batteries and mark down the date so you can keep track of how long they last and change them before needed next time.

Check the combination with the door open and if necessary change the combination. Don't close the door until you verify all is working as it should.

 

[Stubert]

I have a Winchester brand safe with an electronic lock that would lock out after 3 attempts with the wrong combo. You had to wait 5-15 min. for it to reset. I have since converted it to an S&G mechanical dial

 

[birdus]

Just to clarify, the lock is not electronic and has no key. Guess I'll try some more before resorting to the angle grinder. If it comes to that, at least I'll end up with a fun YouTube video.

 

[boom boom]

I have a Winchester brand safe with an electronic lock that would lock out after 3 attempts with the wrong combo. You had to wait 5-15 min. for it to reset. I have since converted it to an S&G mechanical dial

How in the heck did you convert your keypad safe to use a mechanical dial lock that? How much did it cost if you don't mind?

 

[Stubert]

How in the heck did you convert your keypad safe to use a mechanical dial lock that? How much did it cost if you don't mind?

My door is removable, I brought the door to a locksmith to switch it over. It was $200.00 parts and labor. If he came to my house he would have charged me an extra $50.00.

 

[boom boom]

My door is removable, I brought the door to a locksmith to switch it over. It was $200.00 parts and labor. If he came to my house he would have charged me an extra $50.00.

Thanks. Good to know for the future.

 

[FAS1]

This is a handgun safe with a 5 button Simplex mechanical lock. There is no lockout feature.

You have to clear the lock each time prior to punching in your combination. If this is your safe you know how that is done.

 

[birdus]

Again, the manual says:

"A lockout feature deters continued random entry of combinations to gain access"

What does that mean?

Thanks,
Jay

 

[FAS1]

Again, the manual says:

"A lockout feature deters continued random entry of combinations to gain access"

What does that mean?

Thanks,
Jay

Jay,

If you enter an incorrect combination you must "clear or reset" the lock before you enter the combination again. Once a button is pushed it cannot be pushed again until the lock is cleared. Each button will have a noticeable click when pushed. If not, the lock needs to be cleared and start again. I assume that is what they are talking about when they say lockout. Your manual tells you how to reset the lock.

 

[birdus]

Thanks, Glenn. Yes, I know how to do that reset (it's in a downloadable PDF manual on Titan's website). It's hard to imagine their calling that a lockout that deters a criminal (my wording). However, it seems like that's the consensus. If that's the case, then, hopefully I can just remember my combination. I really wanna get my Streamlight off of that Glock 19!

Thanks,
Jay

 

[FAS1]

Thanks, Glenn. Yes, I know how to do that reset (it's in a downloadable PDF manual on Titan's website). It's hard to imagine their calling that a lockout that deters a criminal (my wording). However, it seems like that's the consensus. If that's the case, then, hopefully I can just remember my combination. I really wanna get my Streamlight off of that Glock 19!

Thanks,
Jay

The only “lockout” on a Simplex safe is our exclusive “In&Out Lock” option that allows you to deadbolt the pushbutton lock.

The deterrent is that they can push all the buttons they want and it won’t matter if they don’t know how to reset the Simplex lock in between attempts.

If you can’t get in the manufacturer can tell you how to drill the lock and just replace it without destroying the box. The locks can be bought for about $70.

 

[birdus]

Unfortunately, I don't have my purchase receipt, and, in fact, can't even find the printed manual that came with the safe (pretty sure it's in the house, just can't find it). I'm pretty sure Titan isn't going to tell me how to drill the lock if I can't prove that I own it (in fact, they say as much on their website).

Anyhoo, I appreciate your help, Glenn.

Jay

 

[Trunk Monkey]

FWIW I make sure to write the combination to my safe and keep it in a third location. I use a book

 

[FROGO207]

One co worker put the combo on the front of the manual for emergencies. Then to keep the number out of the wrong hands put the manual in the safe. I just write the combo on the safe with a sharpie. But backwards and with an offset. So far so good.

 

[JTHunter]

Just to clarify, the lock is not electronic and has no key. Guess I'll try some more before resorting to the angle grinder. If it comes to that, at least I'll end up with a fun YouTube video.

Before you take such drastic measures, are there any safe companies in your area? They may be able to "pick" the lock without damaging the safe and even reset your combo to something more easily remembered.

About 10 years ago, I bought a used safe at a company in St. Louis, MO, that reset the combo to a trio of numbers that meant something to me, then delivered the safe and set it up in an outbuilding. Moving that 3,ooo lb. safe on plywood sheets over the rocks of the driveway about 100' from the end of the concrete was nerve-wracking. Before we got done, the battery on their pallet jack was getting low, adding to the difficulty. This is NOT a "gun safe", just a regular safe where I store important records and certain other "valuables".

 

[birdus]

I did talk to a local locksmith who didn't believe this safe had a lockout feature (seems correct based on feedback here), although he didn't mention being able to get into it in another way, either. Maybe I'll do some more checking around before going crazy with power tools.

Thanks,
Jay

 

[FAS1]

You would have to try every combinaition to see if you can crack it. You could eliminate most if you know how many buttons are used in the code or if any buttons are pushed simultaneously in your code. That way you can wittle down the possible combinations.

My first hand experience with people trying this method is that none have succeeded. A locksmith would drill the lock.