Transition to Pistol from Rifle

[sacp81170a]

clear malfunction

Holster first? Clear with weak hand? (I'm kind of playing devil's advocate here. Since I don't practice clearing/reloading my AR weak hand only, I'm looking for advice on that gap in my knowledge.)

 

[BOONER]

sorry i lacked a few thing in there.

after dealing with the threat and moving to a postion of cover. or a teammate to cover you

return the handgun to holster after tac loading it to full capacity.

then to clear the malfuction of the AR as you normally would.

I have tried to clear ar malfuctions suport hand only and its very tuff.

I would stick to using my handgun at that point only if at all possible.

 

[BullfrogKen]

When I took Insights Class 4 or so years ago, we took it with John, and it was literally full of no one but Team Members. 6+1 guy who later joined the Team.

We were given much more freedom and a wider berth to act that what most other classes enjoyed. It was a great experience. Even for John.

I was the lone shooter with a Romanian SAR copy of the AK. Everyone else: AR-15 variant - alphabet. When it came time to jam, well, we couldn't make it jam randomly. No 7.69x39 orange rounds. So, we just pretended. And, I just dropped it into the dirt or stones and reached for the 1911.

I like to have my hands free, and not lug around a jammed rifle. I don't do harness slings I have to climb into like I'm going to climb a utility pole. I use a simple strap. So, goodbye rifle. I'll get you later . . . . after I solve this problem . . . .

Had I wanted to keep it, I'd pull it in snug to my breast, kinda like a sack of groceries. Having it extended, one-handed, out away from my body makes me unbalanced. So, I drop it, or I keep it tight. Once I get through the immediate problem, I'll try to get it back in action then. If it doesn't happen within a few seconds, I'll give up on it and finish the stage with the pistol.

 

[BOONER]

I can see point to that BFKen.

when using a simple strap i like to hang it over my head and neck or trap it to my body with my support hand.


one class i was at the lead instructor about tore my head off when i dropped my AR to the deck .(broken Bolt) he did eveything but slap my mom. then i showed him what the issue was. we were at a stage in the training of about 50 yds out, so I dropped the gun and moved on with my handgun.... in a cover postion of a better armed shooter.

 

[possum]

Mr. Roberts,
the way i train is to "drop" the primary weapon, which really means it is on a one point sling and i let it drop between my legs. occasionally it does hit me hard in the well you know, but mostly in the legs normally the muzzle smacks my knee. but if you are in a situation where you need to transtion, hitting your junk is the least of your worries.

i use two hand grip on the sidearm, others do it other ways but that is the way i do it ad have had great succes in doing it that way. i have even gotten pretty fast, but it sure is a upper body smoker when i am trainning!

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Now that you've accomplished that, the part I've never practiced comes when you decide to transition back. Given the multiple factors involved, what's a reasonable drill for that procedure?

The way I have been training is to sort out immediate targets while moving to cover or having a teammate cover me. Once I reach cover (or take a knee if no cover about) I work backwards - reload pistol if necessary and reholster, reload/clear rifle and get back into action.

 

[justashooter]

"a pistol is only good for fighting your way to a rifle"

 

[BOONER]

Nice quote..........


the real issue is this the secondary weapon has many more uses in our day to day world.

yes were legal a handgun can get you fighting back to your long gun.

but it also serves a role as primary when your main weapon system goes TU.
or when you are in need of hands on (doors, windows etc.) or in the event of a weapons grab and more.(yes i know there are disarm drill that work well for this too sometimes it isnt that easy.)

if you carry one you carry another

one is none two is one.