mercdeking
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Bought a Rock Island Armory 1911 5" government model .
I definitely like it, its accurate but it isn't reliable right now.
That's the troublesome part.
With the novak magazine it came with, it would jam on the last round.
The bullet would stay stuck in the gun (unfired, so I think it was jammed)
At times I would find a double feed. Most of the time it was just the last round just loose in the feed ramp area.
I tried some other mags recently but realized that these mags were also 8 rounders and cheap magar mags.
Bought a wilson combat mag for my government model.
It feeds from the magazine perfectly. New problem, The slide stop starts coming loose out of the side. I first noticed this when I got a double feed and looked over the gun. I saw that the slide stop was sticking out
about the size of that smiley I just put in. So after it comes loose and I keep firing rounds and if I'm not paying attention then a round or 2 will jam.
I also checked to see if it happened slowly, but no, I fired from the magazine 1 round and the slide stop popped out. I then got the slide back into position so I could properly insert it. So it seems from consecutive shooting that with the loose slide stop I would eventually get a jam/failure to feed the round into the chamber.
I've read some links and did some searches and it seems some mention filing away at the slide stop area near the mag to keep the bullets from hitting it all the way to buying a wilson 'bulletproof' slide stop, but could there be another reason?
The best answer I could find stated this:
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PROBLEM #1: THE SLIDE STOP:
A portion of the slide stop projects into the mag well for the purpose of engaging the magazine's follower and locking open the action when the gun is empty. Unfortunately, this also puts the slide stop almost in the path of a cartridge coming out of the magazine. Since the slide stop is only lightly spring-loaded into the down position, if a round of ammo nudges this part during the feeding cycle, it can pop up into the slide stop notch, locking the slide back with rounds still in the gun. This can get you killed. This malfunction usually occurs, if it occurs at all, when firing the gun with hardball and less commonly with shorter hollow-point rounds. If this hasn't happened to your gun, you probably have nothing to worry about; it's only a problem on certain guns. If you do have this problem, a good pistolsmith can dimple the slide stop where it touches the spring-loaded plunger. If the work is done to perfection, the slide stop will never pop up on you, but will still operate perfectly to lock open the empty gun.
End of and from: http://outlands.tripod.com/armory/1911.htm
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Does it lock back in my wilson mag?
yes, it also lodges the magazine in there on occasion, I ended up having to pull the magazine out which would release the slide or not, in which case I would have to fiddle with the slide to get it to its correct position.
My novak magazine doesn't have this issue, it feeds properly except for the last round which doesn't feed properly and the magar magazine jams on every round (the round sort of goes into the barrel but seems to be hitting too high (the slide doesn't fully close). Previously when my gun was jamming the bullets were sort of going in but the slide would not fully seat or close, I could usually 'bump it close' with my hand (light tap), not happening this time with the cheap megar/magar.
I've never tinkered with "gun smithing" before but I'll outsource that since I don't want to do a hack job.
My only other idea is to send it back to the factory or buy another decent 7 round magazine and try that. My gun came with the 8 round novak. My dad has an old llama .45 1911 clone that feeds anything, crappy mag or super expensive mag but it looks like ****. But I would give him my gun! /he's smart enough not to take it
I tried his magar/megar 8 round magazine, my novak 8 round stock magazine and my new wilson combat elite magazine in 7 rounds.
Sorry, looking for a recommendation, not sure what rock island armory does in this case but bought this gun probably the last week of November.
I definitely like it, its accurate but it isn't reliable right now.
That's the troublesome part.
With the novak magazine it came with, it would jam on the last round.
The bullet would stay stuck in the gun (unfired, so I think it was jammed)
At times I would find a double feed. Most of the time it was just the last round just loose in the feed ramp area.
I tried some other mags recently but realized that these mags were also 8 rounders and cheap magar mags.
Bought a wilson combat mag for my government model.
It feeds from the magazine perfectly. New problem, The slide stop starts coming loose out of the side. I first noticed this when I got a double feed and looked over the gun. I saw that the slide stop was sticking out
about the size of that smiley I just put in. So after it comes loose and I keep firing rounds and if I'm not paying attention then a round or 2 will jam.I also checked to see if it happened slowly, but no, I fired from the magazine 1 round and the slide stop popped out. I then got the slide back into position so I could properly insert it. So it seems from consecutive shooting that with the loose slide stop I would eventually get a jam/failure to feed the round into the chamber.
I've read some links and did some searches and it seems some mention filing away at the slide stop area near the mag to keep the bullets from hitting it all the way to buying a wilson 'bulletproof' slide stop, but could there be another reason?
The best answer I could find stated this:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
PROBLEM #1: THE SLIDE STOP:
A portion of the slide stop projects into the mag well for the purpose of engaging the magazine's follower and locking open the action when the gun is empty. Unfortunately, this also puts the slide stop almost in the path of a cartridge coming out of the magazine. Since the slide stop is only lightly spring-loaded into the down position, if a round of ammo nudges this part during the feeding cycle, it can pop up into the slide stop notch, locking the slide back with rounds still in the gun. This can get you killed. This malfunction usually occurs, if it occurs at all, when firing the gun with hardball and less commonly with shorter hollow-point rounds. If this hasn't happened to your gun, you probably have nothing to worry about; it's only a problem on certain guns. If you do have this problem, a good pistolsmith can dimple the slide stop where it touches the spring-loaded plunger. If the work is done to perfection, the slide stop will never pop up on you, but will still operate perfectly to lock open the empty gun.
End of and from: http://outlands.tripod.com/armory/1911.htm
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Does it lock back in my wilson mag?
yes, it also lodges the magazine in there on occasion, I ended up having to pull the magazine out which would release the slide or not, in which case I would have to fiddle with the slide to get it to its correct position.
My novak magazine doesn't have this issue, it feeds properly except for the last round which doesn't feed properly and the magar magazine jams on every round (the round sort of goes into the barrel but seems to be hitting too high (the slide doesn't fully close). Previously when my gun was jamming the bullets were sort of going in but the slide would not fully seat or close, I could usually 'bump it close' with my hand (light tap), not happening this time with the cheap megar/magar.
I've never tinkered with "gun smithing" before but I'll outsource that since I don't want to do a hack job.
My only other idea is to send it back to the factory or buy another decent 7 round magazine and try that. My gun came with the 8 round novak. My dad has an old llama .45 1911 clone that feeds anything, crappy mag or super expensive mag but it looks like ****. But I would give him my gun! /he's smart enough not to take it
I tried his magar/megar 8 round magazine, my novak 8 round stock magazine and my new wilson combat elite magazine in 7 rounds.
Sorry, looking for a recommendation, not sure what rock island armory does in this case but bought this gun probably the last week of November.
