Truly American ?

[nwilliams]

"Henry rifles will be made in America, or they will not be made at all"

I find it ironic how companies like Henry act proud about the fact that their guns are made in America yet their base of operations is located in a State that doesn't support the 2nd Amendment, case in point NJ.

In my opinion the term "made in the USA" really doesn't mean much when you are referring to products made in anti-gun States such as NJ, NY, CT and MA.

I have no problem owning guns made by foriegn companies such as HK, Sig and FN because at least these companies are building manufacturing facilities here in the US in gun friendly States and providing jobs to American workers.

 

[rklessdriver]

Depends on how far you want to look into it and what you consider made in the USA.

HIGHLY unlikely that all raw material used in US firearms mfgr is US sourced.

Profits from US made guns like Dan Wesson, SIG, FN and Beretta still go to Europe even thou their factories and workers are over here.

I don't think any US firearms company is totally private owned.... I also think if we could see the stock shares of all US firearms mfgr's we'd see a fair amount of foreign investment. So some of that profit is going overseas reguardless of how USA the company is.

Springfield Armory isn't much more than a USA name to me. They and their proponets try hard to focas peoples attention on the fact that "some" of their 1911's are partly machined and assembled here but unless you work there and build them, who really knows how much of what is done where...

Just a pet peeve of mine on SA, but some people have for years tried to pump certain NM serial prefixed SA base model 1911's as "USA made" but it's nothing but a bunch of speculation IMO repeated on the internet over and over again as fact, based off a suposed phone call some anonymous internet poster had with who ever answered SA's 1-800 number.

Not to say all of the companies I exampled above do not make good weapons... quite the contrary. They all make good products.... IMO some of the best firearms $$$$ one can buy come from the above mentioned. They also employ skilled US workers and pay some sort of US taxes. All good points to consider when shopping for a new pistol.

Everybodys requirements for a hand gun varies. We shouldn't judge other peoples purchases base on our requirements.

As for what a modern Corporation claims.... No doubt they would claim anything, to anybody (with a 20 page legal disclaimer) to sell whatever they are trying to sell.

Will

 

[Blue Brick]

I don't think any US firearms company is totally private owned....

HP and Mossberg....

 

[YZ]

Yes, most are in fact. The only two listed in the stock market are S&W and Ruger. Savage has just been bought by a holding company, I don't know whether it is privately held.

 

[TimboKhan]

You know, I am always happy to buy a product made in America, but I sort of let go of the idea that it had to be American or I wouldn't buy it a long time ago. The short reason for that is simply the fact that we live in an increasingly global economy, the long answer is that at the end of the day I want to buy the product that best suits me.

What I mean by that is simple, in it's essence. I own a XD. It's a Croatian product. However, despite that, my Croatian gun made Americans money several different ways. And, I might add, it is a product that satisfies a need for me perfectly. If you take price out of consideration, I would probably still choose to own this gun, because for me it is simply the best choice. I love Ruger and have made no bones about that fact, and I even loved the SR9 I once owned, but the fact is that for a 9mm pistol, the XD is about perfect for me. Maybe not for everyone, but for me. Largely I do own American made guns, but if a foreign product has the level of quality that I am looking for, then I am not going to spend any time at all worrying about it. By the same token, I prefer American made knives. I have no problem with certain foreign manufactured knives, like the Japanese and even Chinese Spyderco's and certainly not Mora's, but at the end of the day I feel like I am getting a better product for my money buying American knives.

When it comes to other products, like electronics, the fact is that America simply doesn't compete. Good luck trying to find an American-made television, and while that iPhone is sold by an American company, we all know where it was actually made. Could we build excellent products domestically? Absolutely, but the price we would pay for those products would be astronomical. We can compete with things like cars and boats and whatnot, but there are certain areas where we simply do not compete anymore. We certainly have the knowledge base to develop those products, but the simple economics of producing them domestically at a reasonable cost preclude American manufacture.

Anyway, for me, it all boils down to the product regardless of what that product is. I work hard for my money, and when I spend it I want good value for my money. For the most part, I will buy American if I can, and I certainly buy Colorado when I can, but if Colorado specifically and America in general can't compete I don't waste time or thought worrying about it.

 

[carbonyl]

In this global economy it is hard if not almost impossible to find big-ticket items that are completely made by U.S. based companies employing U.S. citizens, note I didn’t say America to keep from confusing those who need to know which America I mean.
Fortunately I like my Rugers although with my SR9c the 10 round magazine is made in Italy and the super flimsy lock is of course made in China. If I bought a foreign gun I would want it to be manufactured in the U.S. It is more important to me that a blue-collar worker is supporting his family than making a mahogany row seat polishers rich.