Trying to decide if I want/need a rifle

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Can’t really see any fault in not finding enjoyment in rifles when it sounds like you aren’t finding enjoyment in life.

Make today your best day this week - eat the elephant one day at a time. I thoroughly enjoyed my 20’s, and my teens before that, and childhood before that, but while I have found my mid-30’s to be more stable and continuously flowing, I have also found the experiences day-to-day living to be much more richly rewarding, on a scale I couldn’t have imagine existed a decade ago. Sure, we’re at an age where the career rocket ship has began the asymptotic decay approaching the top, but only because we’re in an age/level where we have great responsibility and influence, far beyond our 20’s. We’re not meeting new people and experiencing new things like one night while test driving a hundred extra curriculars during college, but we’re in a phase of developing much more meaningful relationships with people and gaining a mastery of the few hobbies we’ve held onto. If I said life was a construction of a house, adolescence was running around with a hammer and banging on things to make noise. Teenage years realized SOMETHING could be built, but without realizing what, but building parts of things anyway. Twenties seem to be a willing masochism where we fight for gain at all costs, putting up a few walls here and there on a partial fojndation. Our 30’s, in my experience, are an opportunity to apply artistry and expertise to our house.

People seem to think our 20’s are about networking, which may be a great time to start, but your network is in continual flux and the depth of experience to contribute to each other isn’t as powerful. In your 30’s, you have experiences and opportunities to promote real change for each other. I spend a lot of time with a dozen or so colleagues of a broad spectrum of ages having what we call ad hoc “20/30/40/50” conversations - opportunities to talk about who we were at given ages, and who we might become. There’s a lot of power for our lives in this group, as we’re very similar personalities with relatively similar life goals, and about half of us are perfectly spaced on decades in age. We’ve been doing this for about 6yrs now. We’ve lost weight, mended a marriage, survived two divorced, celebrated a wedding, four babies, a retirement, and the lives of two fallen colleagues. We’ve fought (and beat) cancer twice, defeated alcoholism, recovered a heart attack, grieved a miscarriage. We’ve lost weight, hunted 3 continents, completed 3 140.6 mile Ironman triathlons (two dudes), climbed Everest (literally!). We’ve seen 6 of us change jobs (a couple guys twice), some due to lay-offs and a couple for career growth, but all supported, mentored, or connected by our network. And naturally, our little informal fraternity/sorority of people have much broader networks of friends, family, and colleagues which expands the power of our tribe even further. It all started with one of those stories one colleague tells another about “when I was your age,” and a productive seed was planted, we simply had the foresight to put energy into keeping the ball rolling.

Sorry for rambling a bit, but I hate to see folks wallow in their life simply because they can’t see what they have. In my 20’s, I remember feeling like I wanted to make a difference and was looking for a hammer. In my 30’s, I realized I have a hammer in my hand.

If you don’t want/need a rifle because you don’t find enjoyment in them, that’s fine. But I really do hope you find some means to get your house in order to find enjoyment in something. Make today your best, most meaningful day of your week - then do it again tomorrow.
 
I like shooting... I don't golf. Shooting at golf balls suspended with a string from a target frame at 200 yds. is fun, scoped rifle of course. I got my start at age 8 with my first rifle, a .22, an old rusty, beat up Marlin 39A. That was in 1961. I still have and shoot it. I have more rifles and shotguns than I need and if I see a good deal on a classic rifle, well you know the rest... I enjoy shooting at bowling pins at 100 yds. with the military iron sights on a M1 Garand. I don't see so good any more so that is becoming a little tougher. Clay birds in the back yard with family and friends is good too. I took my Dad's old Trius trap bird thrower and rigged it to fit the receiver hitch of my truck. My wife likes clay bird shooting too. Great fun. Milk jugs filled with water and a .444 Marlin give me some good belly laughs, the water showers all over...
I like shooting... Hang in there.
 
Needs vs wants, I have become quite practical in my older self. Due to medical complications I can no longer shoot large bore rifles, therefore I don't intend to buy anymore. Reactive targets are awesome, freeze some rotten fruit in liquid nitrogen or get tannerite. Both have equal fun value. I don't see any reason you should have to buy a rifle if you don't have a reason to use one.

I used to be driven by wants, but now hunt more, hence searching for accurate rifles, and "snake pistols", for instance.
If you shoot for fun, higher recoil, generally, isn't fun.

Jason, don't wait till you have a hospital episode, as many of us have, to make you realize how
little time you have, and how you have to make the best of it. Figure out how to have fun every day,
and take advantage of that.
 
Wow everyone has their own likes and dislikes. I retired three years ago and last winter purchased the RAP 6.5 CM and went thru the rifle by epoxy the front stock and redid the trigger. I purchased 400 rounds of ammo and ordered the turret for the elevation on the CDS Leupold scope and sighted it in at 100 yards, wow it shoots great, and then waited for 11 weeks for Leupold to ship the CDS turret and while I was waiting I purchased the CZ 452 American, SE Ultra Lux, 452 Lux and the 455 FS all in the .22LR cal. Wow I just love to shoot the 22 thru the chronograph at paper at 25, 50 and 100 yards. So I'm selling my RAP with all the ammo, bi pod, muzzel brake and scope with the CDS dial. I'm just having too much fun with the 22LR shooting. At 63 I still shoot trap but the 22LR is the main retirement hobby. I also am selling my lovely 455 FS with a Weaver 5x20x50 Varmint EBX scope setting on the DIP rail and Burris ring so I can purchase a Anschutz 1710D HB. Dam I'm hooked on the 22's. I encourage anyone to try the bench rest shooting and get involved in a monthly contest with folks from all over the world. If u are looking for a starter PM me :)
 
I agree with the above that a change of target is whats needed. If you like shooting clays I bet you would like shooting a pistol caliber carbine at steel challenge targets like a texas star, a dueling tree, or just knocking over steel plates. Also if you like the tactile experience of loading and shooting a shotgun with slugs, I bet you would love shooting a 45-70 lever gun with peep sights, again at hard targets. Paper punching is lame unless your doing load development.

I completely agree about punching paper. I’m just having trouble finding a place relatively nearby that allows anything but paper targets. From a cleanliness and liability standpoint, I completely understand. It makes for some really boring shooting though.

The one rifle I have that the moment is a savage scout in .308. It seemed like a great idea at the shop, but after taking it out to the range a few times, something just seems lacking and I can’t quite put my finger on it. The gun functions perfectly fine and the action/trigger are great. The scope mount obscures a lot of the front sight which is annoying, but that shouldn’t be a deal breaker.
 
Jason_W,

I have never had a lot of interest in rifles mainly due to not having a convenient place to shoot them. After I joined a gun club my interest increased with Cowboy Action Shooting. My long gun collection is pretty modest with a strong 19th and early 20th flavor; 45-70 Rolling Block and Trapdoor Carbine, Winchester 30-30, Marlin 35 Remington, Uberti 73's 32-30 & 45 Colt, double and single shot shotgun. :)

For modern stuff I have not found any reason to look past my Ruger M-77 All-Weather .270. With 1/2" groups at 100 yards and for deer hunting I don't need a more powerful rifle. For that matter I would use it for elk also. I would just choose a premium bullet designed for penetration. :thumbup:

In fact what gets my interest is hunting with my Rolling Block or the Marlin 35 Remington. The Remmie is an awesome hog killer! :evil:

One gun that I do think every responsible head of household should own is a AR-15. For Conservatives for no other reason than political protest. I brought my first one in 2016 just for that reason against the predicted election of HRH. Last year at the urging of a co-worker I actually started shooting it and I am becoming a big AR fan boy with two complete carbines, two project ones in various stages of parts accumulation and I am starting to plan a long barrel scoped build set up for hunting and 200 yard shooting (my club range only goes to 200 yards). :D

Of course I am open to arguments that there should be a lever action 30-30 in every home. :p
 
Jason_W,

I have never had a lot of interest in rifles mainly due to not having a convenient place to shoot them. After I joined a gun club my interest increased with Cowboy Action Shooting. My long gun collection is pretty modest with a strong 19th and early 20th flavor; 45-70 Rolling Block and Trapdoor Carbine, Winchester 30-30, Marlin 35 Remington, Uberti 73's 32-30 & 45 Colt, double and single shot shotgun. :)

For modern stuff I have not found any reason to look past my Ruger M-77 All-Weather .270. With 1/2" groups at 100 yards and for deer hunting I don't need a more powerful rifle. For that matter I would use it for elk also. I would just choose a premium bullet designed for penetration. :thumbup:

In fact what gets my interest is hunting with my Rolling Block or the Marlin 35 Remington. The Remmie is an awesome hog killer! :evil:

One gun that I do think every responsible head of household should own is a AR-15. For Conservatives for no other reason than political protest. I brought my first one in 2016 just for that reason against the predicted election of HRH. Last year at the urging of a co-worker I actually started shooting it and I am becoming a big AR fan boy with two complete carbines, two project ones in various stages of parts accumulation and I am starting to plan a long barrel scoped build set up for hunting and 200 yard shooting (my club range only goes to 200 yards). :D

Of course I am open to arguments that there should be a lever action 30-30 in every home. :p


I have a friend that had 0 interest in guns.

He asked my what gun to buy to shoot yard and pasture varmints, and perhaps put down a horse if necessary.
I suggested that he buy a used '94 winchester .30-30 that i had considered buying at my LGS.
I talked to him a couple years later. He told me what all he had shot with that rifle. He was totally happy with it and couldnt imagine being without it.
 
I know you think it is silly. I know you don’t expect to have fun. Please visit one of the great cowboy action shooting clubs near you and just watch. If you don’t like it fine. But don’t condemn it until you watch it first hand.
 
I completely agree about punching paper. I’m just having trouble finding a place relatively nearby that allows anything but paper targets. From a cleanliness and liability standpoint, I completely understand. It makes for some really boring shooting though.

The one rifle I have that the moment is a savage scout in .308. It seemed like a great idea at the shop, but after taking it out to the range a few times, something just seems lacking and I can’t quite put my finger on it. The gun functions perfectly fine and the action/trigger are great. The scope mount obscures a lot of the front sight which is annoying, but that shouldn’t be a deal breaker.

Scout rifles are just not in their element punching paper holes at 100 yards, or further. Other centerfire rifles can get boring at 100 yards punching paper, too. IMO.

.22LR rimfire rifles can be more interesting at 100 yards than a .308 at the same range, IMO yet again.

But, if you're stuck with indoor ranges, and already have handguns you enjoy shooting there, then a pistol caliber carbine of some sort might be the centerfire answer you are looking for? The 9mm versions seem like a solid choice for those stuck in urban sprawl. Plink, punch paper, and defend, all with one "urban" stick.
 
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Most of us could live without our hobbies. I don't need season tickets for SU basketball, I don't need my shiny new truck when an older one would be just fine. I don't need all the firearms I bring home. You earn a good living and don't live in the red, then you have to find something in life that you enjoy doing.
 
I love shooting rifles more than any other type of firearm, but they're different. I think rifles generally benefit from being shot with a purpose - they are poor toys compared to handguns, but better tools. If you have no need for the tool, they will probably seem of dubious interest. On the other hand if you do need the tool, often no other tool is of any use.

If you want entertainment with a rifle, I recommend getting a 10/22 LVT (by far the best bang/buck 10/22 IMO) with a modest scope like a Leupold rimfire and taking a Project Appleseed course. You're shooting at paper, but as part of a reasonably difficult course of fire that emphasizes shooter skills (not rifle capability) and simulates shooting larger rifles at longer distance. There are Appleseed shoots regularly all over CA. The shoots are very inexpensive as the instructor core volunteer their time.

https://appleseedinfo.org/
 
We have a bunch of .22 silhouettes and re-settable targets that are always fun. The rifle of favor is an accurate Ruger 10-22, bull-barreled rifle, but we also use a bunch of bolt-actions and handguns. A Ruger bull-barrelled semi-auto with a red-dot sight is a lot of fun on silhouettes out to 50 yards.

Other rifles that are fun include .223 Rem bolt-actions with 3-9x scopes. They're fun on water-filled soda cans and other reactive targets.
 
I know you think it is silly. I know you don’t expect to have fun. Please visit one of the great cowboy action shooting clubs near you and just watch. If you don’t like it fine. But don’t condemn it until you watch it first hand.

My club hosted Cowboy Action matches for years and though they're fun to watch, I never got interested in trying it. Few shooters shot as well as their arsenal or outfits would cause one to believe. One guy, all gussied-up had spiels he'd start after the starting bell and before shooting, so his time/scores weren't impressive, but he was having fun.
 
I know you think it is silly. I know you don’t expect to have fun. Please visit one of the great cowboy action shooting clubs near you and just watch. If you don’t like it fine. But don’t condemn it until you watch it first hand.

I don’t think it’s silly at all. It’s amazing what some of those cowboy action guys can do.

The barrier to that form of shooting sport is cost,unfortunately.
 
For whatever reason, my interest in guns and shooting is in my DNA. I never get bored of shooting in all types of venues, from trap shooting to Bullseye or tire of handling/owning all kinds of firearms, from flintlocks to AR-15s. No one in my immediate family was ever into guns, nor "sanctioned" shooting events, nor hunting of any kind (my maternal grandfather was a committed hunter and angler but guns never interested him anymore than a carpenter cares about hammers or a gardener cares about hoes).
Though I have no idea why I've always been interested in guns and all that goes with it, I consider myself fortunate because my "obsession" keeps me in good company as the years go by.
 
Our 30’s, in my experience, are an opportunity to apply artistry and expertise to our house.

I guess those of us in our seventies should be driving nails in our coffins...;)

I completely agree about punching paper. I’m just having trouble finding a place relatively nearby that allows anything but paper targets. From a cleanliness and liability standpoint, I completely understand. It makes for some really boring shooting though.

It's always interesting to me when someone else's opinion/experience is so utterly different (not better nor worse) from mine. Personally, the last kind of shooting that I would describe as being boring, let alone being really boring, is holding a pistol offhand in one hand, using the iron sights to place a bullet as close as possible to the X-ring, @ fifty yards. No, for me, there's no more exciting shooting venue than Bullseye; no bells to ring, no clay to smoke, nothing moving to catch and no targets to fall-just punching paper with malice aforethought.
 
I like to look at rifles and shotguns and sometimes open my safe just to do so. I like shotguns and rifles equally well. I’m not into handguns, even though I own a few.
 
I find my interest comes and goes.
Sometimes it's a beautiful old LC Smith.
Sometimes it's an early Weatherby Rifle.
Sometimes it's an old S&W .38/.44
Sometimes it's an old Winchester M92 .38-40.
Sometimes it's an old 1873 Colt .44-40.

If it stokes the fires....
I have many guns Ive bought but never shot just because I can spend hours looking at them and I got them at a price that I can get back out of them. If it ain't interesting don't buy it. That said I find it a lot of fun to kick around soda cans at a 100 yards with an old lever gun or hit a 600 yard gong with a bolt.
 
Buying a house on some land that I can shoot on changed shooting for me. I find I have more fun but shoot less rounds. Maybe look into a piece of land for yourself to camp on, hunt, and shoot.
 
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