Two piece scope mounts

[KevinOhio]

Can you use two piece recoil scope mounts to keep from destroying a scope?

 

[cslinger]

Can you use two piece recoil scope mounts to keep from destroying a scope?

If you are talking about an AG rated scope (on a spring gun or similar) then yeah, any decent scope mounts will be fine. If you are talking about a non AG rated scope there are very few mounts that will let the scope survive (Dampa/Diana Bullseye or whatever it is named now). The power of the rifle will play a factor as well. A Beeman R7 is going to be far more forgiving then say a Diana 48 for example.

If you are talking about a PCP rifle or pistol or SSP for that matter then have at it, anything will work.

 

[Switup]

My ideal set up is 2 piece and burris sig rings, this way the scope is isolated from the QC in the rifle factory by the plastic gimbals, and the receivor doesn't get stressed either.

 

[3Crows]

I have seen the recoil absorbing mounts in a single piece but not a two piece ring/base system.

Any scope you put on a spring or nitro rifle might as well consider it expendable in due course, sooner or later, later or sooner.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Was told that an airgun has two recoils. Unschooled as I am in airguns, it's the second recoil that breaks the scope. Better to use a scope designed specifically with airguns in mind.

 

[3Crows]

Was told that an airgun has two recoils. Unschooled as I am in airguns, it's the second recoil that breaks the scope. Better to use a scope designed specifically with airguns in mind.

The spring/nitro piston break barrel type rifles have a double recoil. There is a rearward recoil when the spring shoves the piston forward and there is a violent snap to a forward recoil when the piston slams to the end of travel and comes to a sudden and jarring stop.

A PCP, precharged pneumatic rifle, or a pump up type pneumatic rifle, do not have any (adverse) recoil and can use any scope. But those horrible spring rifles, any with enough power to do anything useful with, will destroy in short order just about any scope, even those supposedly rated for spring rifles.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Not to be a wise guy. But they have air rifle rated scopes. UTG scopes are rated for air and powder fired rifles. Ops sorry i didn't see Gary already mentioned the air rate scope.

 

[cslinger]

Was told that an airgun has two recoils. Unschooled as I am in airguns, it's the second recoil that breaks the scope. Better to use a scope designed specifically with airguns in mind.

Spring/piston airguns are exactly the case. Think of them a little bit like shooting an open bolt SMG. That big old bolt(piston) slams forward and then there is some normal backward recoil as well combined with all kinds of vibration and whatnot in all directions.

Normal firearms scopes are not generally engineered to take that forward impact even if they are built for magnum rifle or shotgun recoil. Dampening or spring loaded mounts will mitigate this as will lower powered guns but it’s always a good idea to get spring gun rated scopes for those kinds of guns.

 

[jkingrph]

The spring/nitro piston break barrel type rifles have a double recoil. There is a rearward recoil when the spring shoves the piston forward and there is a violent snap to a forward recoil when the piston slams to the end of travel and comes to a sudden and jarring stop.

A PCP, precharged pneumatic rifle, or a pump up type pneumatic rifle, do not have any (adverse) recoil and can use any scope. But those horrible spring rifles, any with enough power to do anything useful with, will destroy in short order just about any scope, even those supposedly rated for spring rifles.

Funny, I have an old Beeman Blue Ribbon 3-9 scope that was made for airguns. It has been on a FWB 124, for a little over 40 years now and still going strong.

 

[3Crows]

Funny, I have an old Beeman Blue Ribbon 3-9 scope that was made for airguns. It has been on a FWB 124, for a little over 40 years now and still going strong.

Funny it may be to you but that is not a very strong rifle. What are they, something like 10 to 12 fpe? I guess that is what I meant by "useful" and the FWB124 not being considered "useful" to me. So I am not surprised the scope has survived for so long on so anemic a rifle. My little Stoeger .177 makes about 12 to 14 fpe and it has not killed a scope yet, but it will in due course. Of the several rifles I have had that made upwards of 18 to 30 fpe they all killed scopes rapidly and were a b----h to keep the scopes from moving.

 

[cslinger]

My most used air rifles are in the 15-18 FPE and I’ve never killed a spring gun rated scope. I have a 20+ year old Beeman marked scope that’s been on everything from a POS Beeman marked Norica to HW95s, 98s, 77s, and currently lives on a current production FWB sport. Damn thing just keeps on ticking.

NOTE - I fully realize the reticle in said scope must, by the laws of the universe, shift 30 degrees and kill the scope literally the next time I shoot. It. I accept this. .

 

[cslinger]

Of the several rifles I have had that made upwards of 18 to 30 fpe they all killed scopes rapidly and were a b----h to keep the scopes from moving.

If you are unable to use a mount with a scope stop pin or groove try the following.

-clean the dovetails and mounts with isopropyl alcohol, just something to really degrease them. Get into the dovetails.
-Use a dab of clear nail polish on the rings where they mate with the dovetail. Let them set over night.

I have found the above to lock down most sights/scopes.

Now once you start getting way up there in spring gun power you are really going to need some kind of scope stop. IMO.

 

[3Crows]

I have resorted to using three rings instead of two on a few guns.