Uberti 1873 in .357 mag purchase

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HOLY DIVER

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man am i happy with this thing,i honestly shoot this thing as well as i do a .22lr target pistol
i've been shooting 158grain wad cutters over 3.2 grains of bullseye guys its hard to put in words how much fun this thing is to shoot.i'm a firm believer that most pistols on the market today are much more accurate than the shooter so it comes down to finding a pistol that has the perfect balance for you and once you found it boy is it nice knowing you have a centerfire shooting iron in the safe your confident in! i'm so enthused about this 1873 it is know my hunting sidearm i have other options that make more sense on paper than an 150 year old design single action but i don't shoot them as well i'd rather have one well placed shot than 17 that went all over the place and didn't hit anything then i get eaten by a mountain lion......
 
Glad to see your post. I recently got a couple of the Heritage Rough Rider SA in 22lr and they are not just fun but surprisingly accurate for that price or even more expensive. (Part of the surprise is because I'm shooting them.) I'm enjoying them so much I'm looking at getting the Heritage or Pietta models in 357. (I believe Pietta makes the parts for Heritage.) The reviews for these guns are overwhelmingly positive and I notice two of the most common words used are accurate and, especially, fun. Haven't seen as many reviews for the Uberti version so your review is helpful.

Jeff
 
HOLY DIVER said:
.... i'm so enthused about this 1873 it is know my hunting sidearm i have other options that make more sense on paper than an 150 year old design single action but i don't shoot them as well i'd rather have one well placed shot than 17 that went all over the place and didn't hit anything then i get eaten by a mountain lion......
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There is nothing wrong with carrying a SA revolver into the woods. It's hard to argue with what you said above.
 
HOLY DIVER

Yep those single actions sure can be a whole bunch of fun to shoot! Two of my favorites are a Ruger Vaquero and a Beretta Stampede, both in .45 Colt.

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The Cattleman is a fine revolver! Glad you found them!!

A.F., I have a highly modified "El Patron Competition" in .45C/45acp and it goes everywhere I go!! Take the plunge!!

Mike
 
Hey, Holy Diver; I'm your neighbor in the Greenville area. The single action revolvers are a lot of fun. Even more fun when shooting steel targets. I'll send you a message about our cowboy action shooting matches in the Upstate.
 
BullRunBear writes:

I recently got a couple of the Heritage Rough Rider SA in 22lr and they are not just fun but surprisingly accurate for that price or even more expensive.
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I like those, too. Got the 4.75-inch "regular" one back in 2012, and the 3.5-inch "birdshead" one earlier this year (or late last year; can't remember for sure.) They're hard to put down once in hand. I do want one in .357 like the OP's and will probably end up with the Uberti or the Traditions. I want stainless, so I have to wait a little longer to afford it.
 
I've been fond of my Uberti revolvers, and have been considering a .357. I get to make a special-occasion gun purchase later this year and a cattleman is in the running for sure!
 
I had three SA revolvers in 38/357. I sold two of them but kept one to carry in the woods when I'm also carrying a Marlin levergun in .357 Magnum. Like I said above, I feel there is nothing wrong with carrying a SA .357 Magnum in the woods.
 
I have to ask a question that I think I already know the answer to......
Do the Uberti Cattleman, and El Patron have a hammer block, or other safety mechanism, that allows carry with a full cylinder?
 
My Cattleman has a safety feature I basically find useless. The pin the cylinder revolves on can, upon pressing in the pin retainer, be pushed further back if the hammer is set to half cock. It then prevents the hammer from coming forward far enough to strike a primer. To release it, you have to press the spring equipped cylinder pin retainer in and pull the pin back out, two hands required, while you try not to point the muzzle in an inappropriate direction. This is not something that you can do very quickly, so as far as I'm concerned, it really has little use in a practical manner as a carry safety.

It may have been required as a safety feature for importation.
 
The first click of the hammer is the safety click.
It keeps the firing pin up a little so it can't touch the primer if you drop it.
Load all 6, pull the hammer back a tad until it clicks and it's safe.
 
Armored farmer said:
I have to ask a question that I think I already know the answer to...... Do the Uberti Cattleman, and El Patron have a hammer block, or other safety mechanism, that allows carry with a full cylinder?
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Having technical issues that affect my ability to post a reply.

I'll go backwards in time to answer your question. Uberti recently introduced a "Cattleman II" variant that is Uberti's attempt to merge a "passive" drop-safe mechanism with traditional looks: the hammer is mounted on the firing pin but retracts into the hammer unless the trigger is held back. Uberti was showing this new design a couple of years ago but it's only recently started showing up on revolvers imported to the U.S. One fellow on the SASS Wire said that an importer told him that the "Cattleman II" would eventually replace all of the 1873 style Uberti revolvers. Some early reports are that this results in three clicks instead of four.

A couple of years before that Uberti announced a "Horseman" 1873 with a transfer bar ignition but I never saw one in the flesh. A few years before that Uberti made a transfer bar-equipped single action sold under the Beretta brand as the "Stampede". The general reputation of these guns among cowboy action shooters (who put a LOT of rounds through guns) was that they did not hold up as well as the standard 1873s.

I'm pretty sure that imported handguns need some sort of drop-safe mechanism to earn enough points to be allowed into the U.S. Uberti has long offered the "two position base pin" which as someone else said is a poor manual safety. I've known a couple of cowboy shooters who have inadvertently engaged that "safety" during a match.

Some but not all of the Uberti 1873s came in with a hammer block safety that is built into the hammer just below the firing pin. When the hammer is set into the so-called "safety notch", it causes a little hinged piece of steel to protrude from the hammer face. Unlike the two position base pin this is a "passive" system but some don't like it because it is a visible departure from the original Colt style. I'd question its reliability anyway because (and now we're all the way back in time) like the original Colt so-called "safety notch", its weak link is the sear, which is simply the top of the hammer. If you engage the "safety notch" over a loaded chamber, a blow to the hammer can cause the sear or the notch on the hammer to break off, and "bang".

I'm a cowboy action shooter; the rules require that we load the revolvers with five rounds and hammer down on an empty chambers. I happen to shoot Ruger New Vaqueros but the transfer bars are little or no advantage for a competition revolver due to the rule (assuming of course that the shooter does not goof up when loading the revolver or otherwise get a hammer down on a loaded chamber and then drop the gun). If I wanted a single action to carry fully loaded for hunting or other purposes, I'd choose a New Model Ruger. Otherwise the Uberti Colt style revolvers are fine, just load them with five rounds.

I'm reserving judgment on the Cattleman II until all of the early purchasing "beta testers" have wrung them out.
 
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