Unknowing person tried to open a gunsafe. Need Info.

[LoneStranger]

Fellow that I have met, daughter friend, is a soldier out at Ft. Riley. and he has a problem that he asked for info on.

Apparently, he had his firearms stored in his fathers gunsafe. Unfortunately, his father deceased and did not leave combination with anyone. Fellows brother attempted to try and open safe by first sawing off combination dial and when that did not work trying to burn lock mechnism out with a torch.

This has left both of them with no way to open safe and with being told to ship back to manufacturer for door opening at a considerable shipping cost.

Would it be possible for one of the resident safe wizards to give me some contact info for someone in the Ada, OK region who might be capable of opening said safe.

Please refrain from commenting on the viability of spaying and/or neutering this fellows brother even if appropriate.

 

[GP100man]

i opened on for a friend that forgot combo & didnt have it written down any where!!
well when i learned where the door pins were i took a side grinder & about 10 discs & a week to get it open .
he checked & shipping 2 ways was more than a new safe!!

GP100man

 

[highorder]

wait, before anyone called a local locksmith, or got advice from the manufacturer, they destroyed the dial and fired up the torch?

wow.

drill a .750ish hole in it and buy a few hundred sawlz-all blades.

 

[eliphalet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67JNmaNPf88

I would use the grinding wheel method into the door and try and to purchase another door to reuse it, but this would work.

 

[a1abdj]

Crowell Lock And Safe
324 East Main
Ada, OK 74820
(888) 332-4490

Tell them a fellow Clearstar member sent you.

The more brute force you attempt to apply to the safe, the more likely you are to cause damage to the contents. Burglars obviously don't care about this, but they've already made a bad situation worse.

Figure $300 to $500 to open, depending on how bad they've butchered it.

 

[Javelin]

At least you didnt say he threw it out of a 2nd story window for good measure...

HAHA

 

[RNB65]

<double tap>

 

[RNB65]

Hey, this is a great opportunity to find an answer to the old question -- how easy is it to break into a gunsafe?

Lay it on it's side and beat a hole thru it with a pickax. Let us know how long it takes. If it's a Liberty, shouldn't take more than 30 seconds. (Uh, sorry Liberty, just kidding. )

Take lots of pics!
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[coyotehitman]

If damaging the safe is ok with him, I believe the weakest link to be the body welds. On some safes they are reportedly very thin from being ground down for cosmetic purposes. An angle grinder with a diamond blade should work well. If not, I have seen them cracked by drilling a large diameter hole in the top and using a reciprocating saw to cut out an access hatch.

 

[I'm Thinking...]

As 'a1abdj' said; hire a professional locksmith who has had quite a number of years [of] safe-entry experience. I worked for several locksmiths a decade or 2 back, and anybody who is of an opinion that they can open up a decent gun safe with "common" tools needs to have their head examined (try 6 months of psychiatric "observation").

 

[heeler]

Hmm..I anxiously await the outcome of this tale.

How about trying the hammer and screw driver technique.
From what i have read here several times that seems to work on most RSC gunsafes in less than five minutes.
What brand of gun safe is it and what model??

 

[Mot45acp]

While in my safe quest I have discovered a weak spot with many retail outlet safes. Note this does not work with Remington (or whoever makes Remington) Or Amsecs.

Drill a 1/2" or better hole on the body of the safe where one of the locking bolts interlock the door.

Place piece of re bar or similar item to be used as a large punch onto locking bolt.

Hit with 3 lbs or better hammer.

Most RSC's sold at Academy or Gander Mountain are junk. Most safes are sold at Academy or Gander Mountain. If you depress one locking bolt the rest will retract.

I was lucky enough to have a Mag drill to perform this. One can be rented. But I feel that a normal hand drill with appropriate bits to start off with a pilot hole and work up to desired ID of hole would suffice.

Some are easy enough where you can depress by hand.

 

[LoneStranger]

Thanks, a1abdj;

I will try to get the info to him this weekend.

 

[chrlefxtrt]

Dynamite

 

[Quickdraw McGraw]

Keep us updated! This may be interesting.

 

[TAB]

I've opened 2. 1st time I used a skill saw with a few metal cutting blades... it took about 10 mins. The 2nd time I used a cut off saw with a metal cutting blade, took about 3 mins. both where great safes.

both easy to find tools, basicly the same tool, just ones a little bigger.

Anyone that says you can't get into a safe with easy to get tools has no exp in ether opeing a safes or basic construction tools. I use to work for a lock smith/ safe cracker... ever safe I ever watched him get in a drill was the main tool. Granted you had to know where to drill and one to fook with once inside, but thats another story.

 

[eng23ine]

Try calling your local Fire Dept.

I had to bust into a safe that was fire damaged a few months back and the Hurst tool cut through it like hot butter.

They might be willing to do it for you, since all firefighters, myself included, love to break things.



Not the best picture, but you get the point.

 

[monkeykevin]

This is what you'll need to do and need!

2 Homosapians
1 Prying Bar 5' (kinda like a Crobar but long)
1 Crow bar

-Now tip onto its back
-Start from one opening corner Prying it together to the other corner.

 

[Quickdraw McGraw]

This is what you'll need to do and need!

2 Homosapians
1 Prying Bar 5' (kinda like a Crobar but long)
1 Crow bar

-Now tip onto its back
-Start from one opening corner Prying it together to the other corner

.

How much would it cost to ship 2 of them from San Francisco??