UPS Stole my gun

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Had a buddy in high school ordering truck parts that kept getting lost in transit. They reported it to UPS, UPS bugged the package somehow with an RFID or something, they followed the package and ended up busting a whole ring of ne'erdowells somewhere between Arizona and Oregon.

Hope you get your package.
 
Blackfork said:
I'm a little taken aback when UPS, Fedex, USPS ask me if I want to insure my package...its not like someone is going to hold them up and steal it...
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Don't count on it. The UPS hub I worked for had a truck stolen during the middle of a route. It was during the month before Christmas, the truck was a rental due to the increased number of packages, so it wasn't even marked as a UPS truck. Driver had parked in a loading zone at an office building to make several dropoffs, when he came back the truck was gone. The Police finally found the truck after a few days, but the packages were long gone.
 
Blackfork, instead of complaining and throwing your arms up in defeat. Why don't you contact UPS to see what is going on with your package. None of us can help you with getting your package.
 
Hmmm

Next Day Air. Insured for probably $1500 or more. Computer tracking. They have a good idea where it disappeared and probably care enough to look into it.
 
Throwing up arms, and stuff.

Not sure why I would throw up arms in defeat....I ordered a gun- until I sign for it, it's Champions insured and legal firearm being shipped, legally of course, to an FFL here. That said, I paid a LOT of money to insure and ship this package overnight via their allegedly most secure means....and THEY lost or stole it.

And you might be right: "UPS stole my gun" might be inaccurate and wrong.

Or it might be absolutely correct.

Champions has the trace now. UPS trying to find it, or find the thief. I'd guess that if they didn't find it quick, they won't.

But they ought to find where it went and who sent it there, for business reasons.

And it IS frustrating to have to insure against folks stealing or losing your stuff instead of delivering it. Delivering it is what they say they DO.

I got my first Distinguished Pistol Badge points with a borrowed gun and ammo. I can hold out and keep borrowing for a bit.
 
I have bad luck with UPS. If anything goes bad, its always UPS...never Fedex, DHL, or USPS.

I had insured machine tools that went missing. I tracked it all the way here and after Pacific, the local ground distro hub for my area, it ended up in Redmond according to the online tracking #, which is about 30 miles from here.

After much calling and complaining through several people after trying to navigate that terrible robotic menu, they said they found the box only with the label information itself in a dumpster up in Redmond and issued the sender a full refund.

How would you know where a UPS box is (a dumpster) unless you had something to do with it? I am not sure if they meant a UPS location in Redmond or what but it was fishy regardless.

Anyhow I got a replacement from the seller after a MONTH waiting for them to "close the investigation" so they could issue the refund (what left is there to investigate? You told me you found the box with no product in a dumpster). Argh!
 
When I worked at UPS a few years ago my supervisor was telling me that a customer once paid a few hundred dollars to for sonic air (same day delivery) to get a $250,000 dollar morgage check in on time. A week later UPS found it at end of a conveyor belt.
 
Insurance is to cover more than theft. Possible loss or damage would be covered. I'd be curious how the pkg was marked. At FedEx, there is not supposed to be any clue on the outside, there is a firearm inside.
An earlier post did mention labels, etc being torn off or removed. If it wasn't well packeged or marked, that could have happened. I work for FedEx, and that is an ongoing problem. I'm amazed at how lightly people take the welfare of their shipment ( until it's lost ).
Little clue here for ANYTHING any of you may want to ship. Besides the waybill ( which can get torn off in transit ), hand write the shipper and recepient info on TWO different sides of the box. I do that AND put a printed copy of that info INSIDE. I've seen many packeges become nothing more than a glob of cardboard goo after getting exposed to rain.

I do hope they find your firearm. I understand UPS just recently had a guy that did regular deliveries to a gun store, get arrested for theft of some of the guns. You'd think, with that news circulating around the company, others would lay low. But then again thieves are generally too bright. Congrats on the win.

Tuckerdog1
 
My buddy at UPS said that the thieves will carry some replacement labels in their pocket with their address. If they see a box they want then they stick the label over the original and it gets sent to the address on the replacement label.
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They then report to the system that the original label couldn't be scanned, requiring a replacement label with a new tracking number. That tracking number never makes it into the system.

I had a rigid rifle case from Sportsmans Guide disappear that way.

Pilgrim
 
Pilgrim, That label swapping does not work for long. Records are kept of the addresses that pkgs are delivered to. If pkgs begin to disappear at a specific location, security will certainly check if an employee is getting "mystery" pkgs delivered there. Years ago, we had a thief doing that with computers. Changed the delivery address to his own home. Arrested:D

Tuckerdog1
 
My FEDEX experience was to ship my new Ruger back to the factory, I had to render the gun incapable of firing and I had to write "Firearm" on the outside of the box. I said, "Why don't you just have me write "Steal Me" " instead. The woman was incredulous and insulted that I would even consider that a package could be stolen by anyone working at Fedex. A few months later I read an article about a gun stealing ring being broken up at Fedex. Fortunately, mine made it through.
 
I'm in the Detroit Burbs, so I love your post about Detroit Gangbangers. You're right on mark, unfortunately.;)
 
UPS

I am always aware of what one of my neighbors is getting via UPS as they always deliver it to my door step. We both have the same street number, but apparently the UPS guy is not too concerned about what street he's on.
 
As far as anti gun UPS is concerned, another gun has been taken off of the streets!!
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Does not compute..... The gun did not magically turn into a kitten. The gun is now.... on the street....
 
What amazes me is all the threads like this one on how UPS is involved in thievery or incompetence and yet people keep using them. There seems to be a severe disconnect between what folks read about happening to others and what then happens to them.

The default claim and thread title says it all. The naivete of not understanding how it could happen says that much more. It wasn't even Blackfork's gun and he doesn't even know what happened to it at this time, as he eventually noted, but that didn't stop him from claiming that it was his gun and stating as a fact that UPS stole it.

If you folks think UPS is so darned bad, then why the hell do you keep using them and complaining if something goes wrong? It used to be that UPS was cheaper than FedEx on many of the shipping options. Is that why UPS is used? If that is the case, then maybe would it not be more prudent to pay the extra few bucks and ship through another carrier that has a better reputation?

No, of course this sort of thing should not happen, but it does. It is the nature of the shipping industry. Every major shipper has had problems.
 
Good old UPS, sorry to hear about the delay. Packages get lost and misplaced, even stolen i admit, but UPS has one mean ass Loss Prevention Team i work for them under contract checking seal #s on the Semis coming in and out. i go into the hub for a restroom break and god that place looks like a mess cant see how that place gets any work done at all but they do so oh well good lick getiing your Pistol in a timely manner
 
isn't it the regs (and law?) that it CAN"T be marked anywhere as a firearm
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In my store, all we carry are long-guns. When they are shipped in from the warehouse, they are in factory boxes, placed into a plain, run of the mill 4'x12"x12" box. This box has no markings on it. Every thing okay, right? They then slap a warehouse shipping label on it that says "REPACK ATTN: SPORTS MGR." :rolleyes:
Idiots.

I was always told to ship guns in an unmarked box, insured. A shipping company has no reason to know the contents of any package, nor whether it's insured, from just looking at the box itself. All of that information is in the paperwork, and anything more is a "steal-me" sign. Though if it's in a 4" box with Remington's address on it, it's probably not golf-clubs.
 
Had a BerettaTomcat .32 box delivered with the box slit open,taped back,and all we got was the empty box.
No way to know when it was stolen,as the box was there on time,and some one at the shop signed for it,not knowing it was empty.

992
 
I worked in a UPS hub one summer. It was complete freaking anarchy. Packages everywhere- sliding all over the place, falling under trucks, under the belt.

Plenty of chances for your package to either be misplaced or stolen. :banghead:
 
Huh, have been resding this thread since its start. I had placed an order for a Bell and Carlson Anschütz-style stock from Midway last Saturday and it just came in this morning. (I'm home at the moment getting over passing a couple kidney stones. Painful.) The stock came in dirctly from B&C and right on the end flap it printed 'RIFLE' (right next to the box certificate that prints out the box's rating). No mention that it was just a stock. Surprised it wasn't stolen. The white box was, though, standing up next to the front door with the 'RIFLE' standing out.
 
When I worked at UPS my supervisor got fired. When my supervisor saw a package out-bound for delivery to his supervisor's home, he picked up the package and punted it across the loading dock. Not like no one was going to see it right?! :what: Innn cominnnnggggg!
 
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