USFA Zip .22lr pistol

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I've seen 'em...they look interesting but I'm not sure why the design is as it is.
 
Do a bit of research on them. I wouldn't own one if you paid me. Too many failures. I appreciate my fingers.
I wish this company would go back to revolvers.
 
Took a look at it and came away disinterested. The design doesn't do much of anything for me and overall I can't see much usefulness to it.
 
They could be the coolest thing since sliced bread and I wouldn't buy one in protest. That said, I think the consensus is that they are not the coolest thing since sliced bread, far from it.
 
You have to almost stick your fingers in front of the muzzle to cycle the bolt. That alone is enough to make me not buy one.

Innovation is good when it makes sense. "Innovation" like this which exists solely to jump out and say "Look guys, we changed all sorts of stuff, isn't it great!!??!?!" is just pointless. Change is only positive when its useful.
 
I have one. It took a while to get it running correctly. It will only run right with the 10 shot standard Ruger magazine. The trigger is terrible. long and stiff. There are reports it will fire out of battery, but I never had that problem. It is ammo sensitive. It will run ok with CCI Blazers. There is no way to lock the bolt open. It doesnt lock open on an empty magazine. I bought the threaded barrel kit so I could shoot it with my silencer. There is no shoulder on the barrel for the silencer to register against. I emailed USFA about this issue, and got a response that made no sense. It was like they had no idea what I was talking about. It was cheap, $200. I wouldnt worry about throwing it in the bottom of a tackle box, because its all plastic. No bluing, or metal to scratch. It might be worth something in 50 years, because there wont be many around. I doubt USFA will sell more than 1,000 of these...

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That suppressor is a good idea if the gun will function reliably with it installed.
At least it makes it much harder to shoot the tip of your finger off.
 
Onmilo just gave the most favorable review I have seen for the ZIP .. I owned a few stinkers in 30 years but this little thing seems to take the prize for worst attempt at handgun ..
 
I think I want one just because it's very different and not very many folks have one. I like odd things and this one surely hits that mark...lol!!
 
I can't think of a single mark it hits?

I think the guy that owns USFA got to smoking too much Crack after getting rich making the best Single-Actions made in the world and then flushing the factory down the drain to buy more Crack.

Maybe his next big move should be to move to Canada and run for mayor of Toronto.
The Crack mayor there needs a Crack smoking opponent next election.

rc
 
LKLive13 said:
I think I want one just because it's very different and not very many folks have one. I like odd things and this one surely hits that mark...lol!!
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There are many reasons for that.

I can do ugly and uncommon. To some people, that is part of the allure. I don't necessarily disagree. However this firearm has been known to fire out of battery.

A firearm that can injure and take fingers is not "different", it's just a badly made firearm that should be avoided at all costs.
 
rcmodel said:
I can't think of a single mark it hits?

I think the guy that owns USFA got to smoking too much Crack after getting rich making the best Single-Actions made in the world and then flushing the factory down the drain to buy more Crack.

Maybe his next big move should be to move to Canada and run for mayor of Toronto.
The Crack mayor there needs a Crack smoking opponent next election.

rc
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My thoughts exactly. How can you go from making really nice SAA revolvers to making this? I have a USFA SAA, and it is a fine gun. I would never own a Zip.
 
A friend of mine has one. After watching him (try to) shoot it, I declined to give it a try. It's a POS.
 
We have one for sale here at my store, I find it sincerely impractical, only use I can think of is calming or fishing use for someone who doesn't like guns
 
I'm very open to the unusual but I can't imagine what the rationale was for making this gun. It almost looks deliberately designed to fail.
 
When the first publicity shots came up online for this gun, I wanted one. Then I read some first hand reviews on them after the initial release, and I still wanted one, but not as badly. After a few more reviews, I no longer wanted one. I'm glad I never got one, have not heard a good thing yet.
 
i never realized how big and bulky that thing is. if they make a 20 magazine that you could put a sleeve over to get a better grip, maybe i would consider it.
 
rcmodel said:
I can't think of a single mark it hits?
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commygun said:
I can't imagine what the rationale was for making this gun.
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The idea behind it is a modular pistol. You can attach it to the Picatinny rail on a rifle or attach a stock to it and make it into a rifle. But those options require extra NFA registration and aren't very useful anyway. And, more importantly, the gun itself doesn't work very well, which kind of defeats the purpose. And that horrendous trigger pull doesn't help.
 
"If" the Zip was reliable, I would probably buy one just for fun. No interest at all in having to do anything but load magazines to make it work.
 
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