chattanooga1
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Request information concerning the use of .22lr stinger ammo in a Smith & Wesson 22a. Can this ammo harm pistol and/or user? Also, same question for the use of .22lr mini-mag. Thanks.
Using "stinger" ammo in .22lr S&W semi auto pistol
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acmax95
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I don't see any any problems using the stingers. I have used stingers and mini mags in both my 10-22 and Mark II without issue.
azmtnbikerxdm
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My Sig Mosquito loves the mini mags and also fired the stingers with hardly any issue. They both should be fine in your gun.
I've never tried it although I keep some stingers on hand and a have a 22a. The stingers I bought to try, they really have no valid purpose. Maybe if one only had 22lrs and thus had to use them for SD? They are relatively inaccurate and while cheap compaired to other rounds, its expensive for 22lrs.
mljdeckard
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I use them in my 1911 conversion kit, with velocitors, because it takes a little more oomph to cycle the slide. I'm not sure I would want to use them in my dad's vintage Colt Woodsman though.
hardluk1
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Try them then deside how you like them. I have had guns that shot them better than any other and some that did not shoot them well but always went bang. Some of these fancy aftermarket barrels as that they don't work in the chambers. but stock is good.
JImbothefiveth
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I thought S&W warns against using them. I know Ruger warns against them.
I don't think you're even supposed to use high-velocity in those.
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rcmodel
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All the S&W 22A owners manual says is:
Use only commercially manufactured ammunition with internal
ballistic pressures which are in strict accordance with the specifications
of the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’
Institute (SAAMI).
CCI Stinger & Mini-Mag ammo meets those requirements.
rc
Use only commercially manufactured ammunition with internal
ballistic pressures which are in strict accordance with the specifications
of the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’
Institute (SAAMI).
CCI Stinger & Mini-Mag ammo meets those requirements.
rc
hardluk1
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I have shot stingers for decades in a colt huntsmen and rugers both pistols and rifle also so many ollldddd 22 rifles i can't begin to list. One of the few that shoot amost always . Unlike some cheaper brands
usp9
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Stingers are great rounds, but man have they gotten expensive!
Well according to Wikipedia;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle
"The Stinger uses a longer case, a stronger charge and copper plating on a lighter bullet. The case is longer than that of the normal Long Rifle cartridge (approx. .68 inch versus .59 inch for the Long Rifle), yet Stingers will fit in most Long Rifle chambered firearms."
"The powder is designed to burn more slowly and thus make the most use of the length of a rifle barrel. In the Stinger the extra case length is compensated by a shorter bullet, which is only available as a plated hollow point."
"The thin copper layer on the bullet functions as a lubricant and reduces the friction between the high velocity bullet and the barrel, thus reducing barrel wear. It also has an oxidation-preventing effect on the lead bullet."
"Lead tends to oxidize if stored over long periods of time; as a result of this, the bullet's diameter increases to a level that might both prevent the insertion of the cartridge in the chamber and might cause the pressure in the barrel to rise to a dangerously high level."
"The increase in pressure may lead to the case rupturing and potential danger to the shooter. Standard and subsonic cartridges tend to use a type of wax for the same purpose."
"The Stinger uses a longer case, a stronger charge and copper plating on a lighter bullet. The case is longer than that of the normal Long Rifle cartridge (approx. .68 inch versus .59 inch for the Long Rifle), yet Stingers will fit in most Long Rifle chambered firearms."
"The powder is designed to burn more slowly and thus make the most use of the length of a rifle barrel. In the Stinger the extra case length is compensated by a shorter bullet, which is only available as a plated hollow point."
"The thin copper layer on the bullet functions as a lubricant and reduces the friction between the high velocity bullet and the barrel, thus reducing barrel wear. It also has an oxidation-preventing effect on the lead bullet."
"Lead tends to oxidize if stored over long periods of time; as a result of this, the bullet's diameter increases to a level that might both prevent the insertion of the cartridge in the chamber and might cause the pressure in the barrel to rise to a dangerously high level."
"The increase in pressure may lead to the case rupturing and potential danger to the shooter. Standard and subsonic cartridges tend to use a type of wax for the same purpose."
Colorado S14
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And to cap it all off I had some issues with my 22a and when I called S&W they directly recommended that I try CCI Stinger to correct the issue.
Personally, I don't like the Stingers. Besides what's mentioned above about bullet/casing size, the main way they eek out the extra velocity on them is to coat the bullet in wax. After about 200-300 rounds in a session the action, mag and chamber on my Mosquito are totally gummed up with the wax and I start to get malfunctions. I much prefer Mini-Mags. No wax, no issues.
Here's a pic comparing the length of a 22lr stinger;
.22 Long Rifle – Subsonic Hollowpoint (left). Standard Velocity (center), Hyper-Velocity "Stinger" Hollowpoint (right).
P.S. I mistakenly reopened this thread. I meant to put this post on the new thread http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5638986&posted=1#post5638986discussing stingers! Sorry!
.22 Long Rifle – Subsonic Hollowpoint (left). Standard Velocity (center), Hyper-Velocity "Stinger" Hollowpoint (right).
P.S. I mistakenly reopened this thread. I meant to put this post on the new thread http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5638986&posted=1#post5638986discussing stingers! Sorry!
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