rellascout
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I was pulled over today by a VA state trooper. I notified the officer that I had a CHP and that I was armed. He asked me where the weapon was. I told him on my hip secured in a holster.
He asked to me to remove the gun and hand it to him. I removed it from the holster and told him it is a 1911 and it is cocked and locked. He looked at me like I was insane and asked me why it was cocked. I told him it was a 1911 and I was carrying it as it was designed. Clearly he was not comfortable with this and I asked him did he want me to clear the weapon. He said yes. I thumbed the safety down. dropped the mag and ejected the round from the chamber. I then left the action open showed him that is was clear and handed it too him.
He took it to his car. Did his thing and wrote me a ticket. From his car he motioned for me to come to his vehicle. I complied. I signed my ticket and asked for my 1911. This is where it got interesting. He says to me "I don't mean to give you a lecture on gun safety but carrying a gun cocked like you are is dangerous. It is not safe and you are asking for a negligent discharge. I explain to him that the 1911 is safer cocked and locked than the Sig P229 in 357 Sig he carries. I demonstrated to him that the 1911 cannot be fired without 3 deliberate acts.
Since the gun was clear and was not loaded I attempted to educate the ignorant trooper. I locked the safety and pulled the trigger amazingly enough it did not drop the hammer. Then I dropped the safety and pulled the trigger without engaging the grip safety. Again surprisingly the hammer did not drop. I then engaged the grip safety and the hammer fell.
He looked at me and said... your gun carry it the way you want.
All I have to say is that this trooper knew nothing about 1911s. He knew nothing about carrying cocked and locked but felt the need to impart his ignorance on to me. I told him that yes to carry a Sig P229 cocked would be dangerous but a 1911 it is perfectly safe.
So long story short why was this VA State police so stupid when it comes to guns. I cannot believe I was lectured by a 20 something who thought that a badge gave him the right to give me firearm advice. Do they not teach Troopers about guns beyond the ones that they carry? This trooper had no clue. If he did not have a badge I would have told him off.
He asked to me to remove the gun and hand it to him. I removed it from the holster and told him it is a 1911 and it is cocked and locked. He looked at me like I was insane and asked me why it was cocked. I told him it was a 1911 and I was carrying it as it was designed. Clearly he was not comfortable with this and I asked him did he want me to clear the weapon. He said yes. I thumbed the safety down. dropped the mag and ejected the round from the chamber. I then left the action open showed him that is was clear and handed it too him.
He took it to his car. Did his thing and wrote me a ticket. From his car he motioned for me to come to his vehicle. I complied. I signed my ticket and asked for my 1911. This is where it got interesting. He says to me "I don't mean to give you a lecture on gun safety but carrying a gun cocked like you are is dangerous. It is not safe and you are asking for a negligent discharge. I explain to him that the 1911 is safer cocked and locked than the Sig P229 in 357 Sig he carries. I demonstrated to him that the 1911 cannot be fired without 3 deliberate acts.
Since the gun was clear and was not loaded I attempted to educate the ignorant trooper. I locked the safety and pulled the trigger amazingly enough it did not drop the hammer. Then I dropped the safety and pulled the trigger without engaging the grip safety. Again surprisingly the hammer did not drop. I then engaged the grip safety and the hammer fell.
He looked at me and said... your gun carry it the way you want.
All I have to say is that this trooper knew nothing about 1911s. He knew nothing about carrying cocked and locked but felt the need to impart his ignorance on to me. I told him that yes to carry a Sig P229 cocked would be dangerous but a 1911 it is perfectly safe.
So long story short why was this VA State police so stupid when it comes to guns. I cannot believe I was lectured by a 20 something who thought that a badge gave him the right to give me firearm advice. Do they not teach Troopers about guns beyond the ones that they carry? This trooper had no clue. If he did not have a badge I would have told him off.
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