Very strange occurrence with Wolf Ammo

[Thin Black Line]

This is why I've been writing over and over in the rifle section to "inspect
your cartridges" before use.

My personal favorite was a PMC cartridge that was missing part of the
primer cap --just enough left for the firing pin to set it off, not enough
to keep it in the pocket. Wouldn't that have been bad to have some
gas blow back in your face???

Then there was the A-Merc 9mm that came right out of the factory
box and had the bullet fall out of the case and the powder spill out.

Look at and, yes, please squeeze the charmin......

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Right, but it isn't just a budget ammo deal, but any ammo. I have gotten a hydrashok with crushed shoulders. I have seen a Winchester 9mm and South African 5.56 with upside down primers. I have seen crooked slugs in various brands, none of which would feed. I should not happen, but it does, but not very often.

The attached file is of an S&B round, 9mm ball ammo that the guy paired up with me as a partner had in his ammo. He noticed it as it would not feed into his magazine. It was his second week in a row at TR and said it was the second roudn like that he had found in two different cases of S&B.

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Just curious, why are the primer strikes in the originally pictures wolf ammo comparison so completely different?

 

[the naked prophet]

The lack of an extractor groove and the different headstamp give a clue as to its purpose - it may actually be a proof testing round for rifle manufacture. At various points in the manufacture of a rifle, it may be necessary to test not only the fit into the chamber but other things as well - these rounds are collectors items in some calibers like .30-06 from the development of the Garand and such, as well as the manufacturing process.

Just one more possibility.

 

[hksw]

Man, that case is a collector's piece like some double-headed coin.

My thoughts, too. I'd also probably keep it. I have a quarter in my small coin collection that wasn't grooved on the edges.

 

[Thin Black Line]

There are some unusual rds that come mixed in larger batches from time to
time. Kind of like the Israeli 7.62 soft point match ammo (1960s) that came
in with the surplus ball I bought. Had a friend who found a whole bunch of
romanian 7.62 match as well.

However, wasn't this wolf in 20 rd boxes???

 

[Doug S]

I've had several people mention that I should keep the round as a collectors item. Maybe I will keep it. Yes, the round was from a case of 20 round boxes of Wolf ammo.

 

[Creeping Incrementalism]

The attached file is of an S&B round, 9mm ball ammo that the guy paired up with me as a partner had in his ammo. He noticed it as it would not feed into his magazine. It was his second week in a row at TR and said it was the second roudn like that he had found in two different cases of S&B.

Do you have a higher resolution image than that? It looks like it is growing a baby cartridge at the top.

 

[MAUSER88]

It looks like that was indeed an 7.62 x39mm. Look at the primer, it's flatend out a sure sign of overpressure which could cause the case to stretch out. I had that happen to a .308 round. I know it had the extractor lip when I loaded it into a magazine. It came out looking just like yours.

 

[leadcounsel]

I saw something very similar in a box that another guy had at the range.

It was a box of American made .45 ACP made by one of the big makers like Winchester or Remington. I forget the maker, but the bullet fed for the guy and he didn't notice it until he collected his brass. The rim was much too large

 

[MyRoad]

Does anyone know the total volume of 7.62x39 Wolf puts out anually? I suspect they are the #1 worldwide producer, making millions of rounds. Things go wrong from time to time.

This picture is of Wolf 7.62x54R - nothing wrong with the chamber on my Mosin Nagant, I shot about 60 rounds that day, and noticed this when I was picking up the brass at the end.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Do you have a higher resolution image than that? It looks like it is growing a baby cartridge at the top.

Nope, sorry. That 'baby' is more like a nipple that then got jacketed.

 

[hksw]

Or the soft armor penetrating 'inverted hollow point'. AKA, 'the outie'.

 

[Kurush]

I ordered "Kalashnikov, the Arms and the Man" by Edward Clinton Ezell last week and it arrived today. While I was paging through it I noticed a diagram depicting a cartridge identical to the one in the OP, with the headstamp "539 81". The author reports that he has never seen one and has only the drawing to go by. Doug S if you have a caliper could you take a measurement of the case length, that would help confirm it.

I am teeming with jealousy now
I will try to scan or at least photograph the diagram asap.

 

[Doug S]

karush,

Very interesting. Sorry, I do not have a caliper.

 

[Kurush]

Here's the diagram:

 

[Doug S]

Wow, very interesting. Thanks for the picture.

 

[hksw]

Yeah, very interesting.

 

[Dr.Rob]

539 is the Tula headstamp... 05 is the year of MFG... if the 81 headstamp pictured above is correct.

Sounds like you may indeed have a collector's item. And Tula is still making rimless cartidges for some unknown rifle. (cue spooky Russian spy music)