sierrabravo45
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I would have tazed him.
If I'm the RP and clearly the good guy, you're gonna get some lead if you try to cuff me. "No thank you" will be my first response prior to that, but if the issue is forced, then....
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KBintheSLC
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Join Date: July 30, 2007
Location: Oootah, USA
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Dont. Call. The. Police.
Unless you need body detail, I have to agree here. The police rarely seem to offer real "help". When I was robbed at the age of 19, the cops gave up every detail of my personal information to the perp's family. I had his brothers and buddies showing up on my door step attempting to "persuade" me to drop the charges.
Needless to say, I have never felt so violated by the cops in my life. I decided that I would never involve the cops in my life again unless someone is dead, leaving me little choice.
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And if there wasn't any disciplinary action, as in many places there wouldn't?Yes, only because the other choices would probably involve something like resisting arrest. Honestly, If I was not harmed there would not be a lawsuit either, but I would demand disciplinary action.
Chilling isn't it, this progression from public servants to "master's of the public?" The thing is, it's really not an aberration, it's standard operating procedure, and it's not limited to just certain "outrages," we should remember that this is just the abuse(s) that we've heard of.Well, I sure learned an enormous amount from reading THR, but this takes the cake.
Words fail me in trying to express my feelings about the prospect of civil servants placing me/my family into more danger by handcuffing us when an armed intruder may be present! No wonder the police in Arizona put bullets into the homeowner if this is their thought process....
When I explain this police tactic to our teenagers, I don't know if I will be able to stop the laughter that will erupt.
Clearly we will exit the house via windows, meet at our prearranged safety point, get into a vehicle with our firearms concealed, and observe from a very safe distance. We may even leave and only come back when they call us to tell us they have cleared the house, at which point we might meet THEM at the entrance of the house to allow them to discuss their findings with us, once everything seems safe.
civil servants placing me/my family into more danger by handcuffing us when an armed intruder may be present
Of course only in Chicago would NOBODY wonder whose rights the idiots and criminals they subsequently hire are most likely to be violated. Hint: Not anybody in Bridgeport. In the universe which *I* inhabit, endemic police misconduct isn't remedied by LOWERING the hiring standards.Where is it, Chicago, that's going to eliminate entrance exams because it discriminates against minorities?
Depending on the situation that life could be measured in seconds, if you comply, or tens of seconds if you don't; at the time that the situation occurred in the report this was a possible outcome. Which is preferable risking court and jail, or death? Given that death is terminal, and doesn't leave many options I might also take court and jail.
Anyway more reasonably, I really cannot fathom the logic. The police rely on the people for information to help catch criminals which is their job. Alienating the public will prevent them from performing their job, so it's self defeating.
Everything has an element of risk associated with it, and police work is no different. You minimize the risk, without alienating the public, by say putting cuffs on and disarming the RP. If you can't handle the risk and behave rationally then you shouldn't be doing the job. Also as Ed mentioned, having a badge does not necessarily give you the right to do something that someone without a badge would be prosecuted for.
However in this particular officers instance, I would be very concerned with their response should the come across someone who does not comply. Given the demands that she made, would she have shot the RP if he had refused to relinquish his gun and allow himself to he cuffed? It's not known but I'd be really concerned based on this behavior.
As far as the LEO's complaining about regular people becoming a-holes, some have a predisposition, others don't. Some just become instant a-holes when some arrogant sumbitch with a uniform tells them to do something which infringes their legal rights (I have been known to be in this group from time to time). There's always two sides to every story, and maybe if you're finding a lot of people becoming less than polite, it might be an interesting exercise to review your behavior towards them to see whether you provoked that response before assuming that everyone else is at fault.
Well, if you have ever been in piblic safety you would know it is the first thing you do is make the scene safe for you then you can make it safe for others. But, I have been here long enough to see when an argument is going no where good.
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if you have ever been in piblic safety