Frankly, I've never found the PPS to have a stout recoil. It's rather soft-shooting for its size, and certainly shoots like a much larger gun.
Exactly.
Frankly, I've never found the PPS to have a stout recoil. It's rather soft-shooting for its size, and certainly shoots like a much larger gun.
People who have both on the Walther forum say the CCP is much easier to rack and recoils less than the PPS.
UMAREX will not let this gun fail and tarnish the Walther name. Unless all is lost at corporate HQ.
Forget about Umarex, Walther's name is all over this pistol. They advertised and marketed it and is selling it under their name. It is their pup now.
Spot-on. I have no idea why some people expend so much energy avoiding these simple facts.Nope.
Umarex own Walther. They can slap the Walther name all over their lesser products and the Walther factory in Ulm has no say in the matter. Whether Walther America markets both in the US matters not.
It doesn't change the fact that Umarex makes lower-quality firearms and airsoft toys, while the Walther factory in Ulm makes very high-quality firearms like the P99, PPQ, and PPS.
What previous action by Umarex is the basis for such confidence?
UMAREX could be an exception, but as a rule corporations don't buy out another company with a name and a history like Walther to trash it. But as they say, stuff happens.
And the real problem for Walther is the average Joe doesn't know what he's buying if it says Walther on it anymore.Nope.
Umarex own Walther. They can slap the Walther name all over their lesser products and the Walther factory in Ulm has no say in the matter. Whether Walther America markets both in the US matters not.
It doesn't change the fact that Umarex makes lower-quality firearms and airsoft toys, while the Walther factory in Ulm makes very high-quality firearms like the P99, PPQ, and PPS.
That's a shame then. One would hope Walther wouldn't willingly put their name on a pile of crap like the CCO. The PPQ shows they know what a good trigger is. They must have let the janitor design the one on the CCP. Sad to see a good company go down the tubes." Walther factory in Ulm has no say in the matter". This is absolutely false. Based on my conversations with Walther and those on the Walther Forum, Walther in Ulm has dominion over a portion of the plant in Arnsberg where the CCP is manufactured . Also their workers and engineers and production managers work in that very plant to oversee the production of this pistol. Your statement and many like it is pure poppycock, which seems to be common by some on the high road , to say the least. I have done the research on the Walther plant in Arnsberg and Walther's involvement in CCP production. Before you "speaketh ", get the facts straight.
Yes, the guns made in Arnsberg are not as well made as those in Ulm,, but they have to work.
Your statement and many like it is pure poppycock, which seems to be common by some on the high road , to say the least. I have done the research on the Walther plant in Arnsberg and Walther's involvement in CCP production. Before you "speaketh ", get the facts straight.
Umarex own Walther.
They can slap the Walther name all over their lesser products and the Walther factory in Ulm has no say in the matter.
Whether Walther America markets both in the US matters not.
It doesn't change the fact that Umarex makes lower-quality firearms and airsoft toys, while the Walther factory in Ulm makes very high-quality firearms like the P99, PPQ, and PPS.
"Successful" definitely doesn't mean "high quality". As said before, the P22 is very successful and it's also a pretty terrible gun most of the time.snooperman said:By the way ,for those who like to bash the Arnsberg facility, it is home to the successful Colt 1911 22 pistol and wonderful S&W M&P 22 that is selling so well.