Warning: CMP and Garand Availability

[boxcab]

From the CMP Forums...

As I have reported previously, CMP is almost completely out of what we called "USGI Garands" and will probably never receive any more. Any rifles we may get in the future will be returns from overseas and we may or may not know the country of origin. We are also almost completely done with the Inspection / Repair and sale of all the Garands returned from Greece and Denmark. I expect that within the next 30 days (as we fill existing backorders) we will be sold out of all grades of Garands. We have more orders than rifles.

We have been reporting that we still had thousands of Garands to inspect, but knew that most would grade in the lower grades. Most of those 'thousands' were in very poor condition. Over the past few weeks we have stripped them down to each individual part. That leaves the CMP with only a few hundred odd Garands (about 300 - Some National Match, some M1Ds, some others. Yes, we do have thousands of Grade B eceivers and a few hundred Garand welded drill rifles.

We also have maybe 2,000 barreled receivers (both worn finish and refinished), that we will build up into complete rifles into whichever grade they fall based on the TE and MW measurements. Assembly of the rifles will start next week and we hope to have that production run complete in the next 60-90 days. No promises.

The only other Garand we have coming up is our 'CMP Select' rifle - which is a reparked receiver, new manufacture barrel, and new manufacture wood. The other parts are those that we have had refinished or nelwy manufactured. Unfortunately, we have only been able to acquire enough wood and barrels to build about 1500-2000 in this grade. Assembly of these rifles will also take about 180 days. Pricing has not been determined.

If anyone has been following our ads, we shifted from adverising rifles to advertising our ammo over the past few months.

Now for the good news - this is not the end of the road, just a hiccup. We have good reason to believe that we may receive another shipment of Garands sometime this year. Keep in mind that there is no way to predict condition and that it will take anywhere from 4-6 months to get any of these ready for sale - se we can't make any promises about these either.

In the meantime - the inspection / repair / grading of the Carbines is progressing smoothly.

So - don't expect many (or sometimes any) Garands in the stores for several months.

http://www.odcmp.org/new_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29582

-Boxcab

 

[MilsurpShooter]

Looks like I won't get my C&R in time after all

 

[HorseSoldier]

I know they recently got a bunch back from Paraguay that were, I'm told, pretty much worthless for anything but scavenging parts off of. Apparently, the rifles had been stored in open racks in a warehouse or something, as I heard they were mostly rusted out and had obviously been stored below a pigeon roost . . .

 

[Jeremy2171]

Yes, the Paraguayan rifle were junk...about 99% of them. I saw piles of barreled actions that the barrels were toast.

Good news is the Koreans are on the way! Like he said...just a small hiccup!

 

[ScottsGT]

I just read on CMP or CSP forums that it is Greeks that are on the way. Supposedly 50 overseas containers full are at the docks. Apparently customs is arguing with the US Army that they need an import license to bring back their stuff.

 

[hksw]

Looks like I won't get my C&R in time after all

Err, how is a C&R and the CMP Garands linked?

 

[MilsurpShooter]

Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity
FFL or C&R license

 

[AJ Dual]

I have to get a new safe first.

I'd have gotten an M1 a long time ago, but parenthood got in the way, it's going to be a nail-biting wait to see if I can get a CMP one, or pay much more on Gunbroker someday.

I really don't care where my M1 was, as long as it was made here and it shoots decently. And even if it's not quite up to par, I can always send it to Fulton or some other smith later.

I've just got to have one.

 

[30Cal]

Good news is the Koreans are on the way! Like he said...just a small hiccup!

I don't think they're Korean. We SOLD rifles to Korea--they weren't loaned. The CMP has no mechanism to import them.

 

[Daemon688]

Ugh, this is rather disappointing news. I didn't turn 21 until December right when the last of the good stuff was sold out. Now I may not even be able to find a nice M1 or one at all when I visit their store in May. This is a huge bummer

 

[Jeremy2171]

There are Greeks on the way but there are some Koreans one too...

Of course the CMP won't be grading them by country anymore so the point is moot...

 

[sarge83]

I think your CCW will work as well as shooting activity. Just join GCA and do the paperwork and your set.

 

[jthuang]

The only other Garand we have coming up is our 'CMP Select' rifle - which is a reparked receiver, new manufacture barrel, and new manufacture wood. The other parts are those that we have had refinished or nelwy manufactured. Unfortunately, we have only been able to acquire enough wood and barrels to build about 1500-2000 in this grade. Assembly of these rifles will also take about 180 days. Pricing has not been determined.

Well, the above seems promising. Sure they are not USGI -- but for the shooter who is not a collector, it certainly seems like a good option.

The only downside to this "hiccup" (as Orest calls it) is that I can bet that the rifles made available 4-6+ months from now will definitely be more expensive than current pricing.

CMP charged my credit card last week for a Greek RG so I'm hoping to find a rifle at my parents's place when I visit home this weekend.

Justin

 

[jthuang]

I think your CCW will work as well as shooting activity. Just join GCA and do the paperwork and your set.

Yep, sure does. I used my CCW for my marksmanship activity, even though I had shot a DCM match back in 1998. Of course, I waited eight years after shooting that DCM match to buy my first M1 Garand. :banghead:

Also, if you belong to a gun club you may already be a member of a CMP affiliated club so you can save the $20. My gun club attained that status in 2005.

 

[zoom6zoom]

I received a Greek rack grade this week. Better condition than I had expected. Wood is somewhat beat up, but no rust or pitting on the metal parts. I also got a service grade H&R barrelled receiver that will eventually get built up.

Virginians, VCDL also qualifies as an affiliated club.

 

[MilsurpShooter]

Unfortunately I'm not a member of any gun clubs around here, hassle to find one who doesn't want you to jump through hoops, and I unfortunately don't have a CCW yet. I brought the form the CMP has on the site to the range I visit, county run, figured one of the range officers would sign me off no problem, and in order to sign it I need to shoot one of my rifles with one of them. No big deal normally but the rifle range is closed for renovations anywhere from 6 months to two years. Hunter course I took didn't have a live fire portion. <sigh> I should just pack up and move to Vermont allready

 

[sarge83]

Go to the CMP website and look for clubs within a 100 miles of you and try and contact them. You might have to drive a little but your set for 3 yrs.

I ended up driving to the Alabama store to pick up a couple of Dane Field Grades. Worth the time and effort!

 

[glimmerman]

Just join the m1garand collectors association for $20 and your good to go.

 

[donkee]

I picked up my first last year and 4 more this year. Sure glad I did!

 

[fatelk]

My wife just paged me at work to say the my second and last Garand arrived today. I had ordered a woodless Dane but then read on this forum that a few field grade Danes were available, so I called and they had no problem changing my order.
She said it looks better than my other one. Serial number is 2,892,xxx (I'll look that up later when I have time) and the barrel says VAR on it.

I'll be a happy man going home tonight. A happy wife who's a great cook and loves to have dinner ready, two little kids that yell "Daddy!" and attack me, and a cool new rifle waiting to be torn apart and cleaned. Could life be any better?

Sorry, I know it's not nice to brag.

 

[Mac Attack]

Glad I got mine already.

 

[fatelk]

For those of us that are unable to visit a CMP store short of a plane ticket or a very long road trip, it really is worth calling to see what they have rather than just going off the web sight. I just got home and checked out my new FG Dane. Very nice!
The bore looks great, stock is good. Looks like it was made a month before D-Day, from the serial number.

I have a question perhaps someone can answer. Doesn't seem important enough to start another thread so I appoligize for it being off topic for this one. There is a serial number along the bottom of the butt stock that is the same as the serial number on the rifle. Does this mean that this is the original stock, or was the number stamped at some point on a replacement stock to match? I was told that it was uncommon for these old rifles to be in their original stocks.

 

[MikeH]

I sent in my order early March, and got my Greek Rack Grade just two days ago. Glad that I didn't procrastinate any longer.

 

[mek42]

If purchasing a less than pristine grade of rifle for shooting purposes (as opposed to collecting), is the barrel the most important part to be concerned with for wear? How available and costly are replacement barrels? How much maintenance factor is involved in replacing said barrel?

Thanks!

I hope this doesn't count as a thread hijack.

 

[Onmilo]

I have heard there are several thousand M1 Garand Lend Lease or FMAP rifles in the Phillipines that are eligible for return stateside and these may be the rifles the CMP receives in the upcoming months.