4kdave
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As far as protecting children in schools....there are a lot of Veterans that can't find work so put them to work in front of our schools
please point out where I said I want to hand over the "keys to my safe"
I am being a realist. I have signed petitions, reached out to local representives, and made contributions to the NRA. I still think some restrictive legislation is coming. Expect the worst and hope (and do all i can) for the best.
I'm sorry you have an "all or nothing, with me or against me" mentality.
sgt. murtaugh said:"you have no real need for an AR15"
I hear that argument a lot and I usually don't know the best response to it.
Fair enough. Just know that we are on the same side. If reaching out to representatives and making NRA contributions and signing petitions isn't sufficient, what is it that you suggest doing to be more vocal and pro-active?My bad, it was a figure of speech but your harmless daydreams could lead to such a day.
Want to get my attention? Start fooling around with the Bill of Rights and you'll get it real fast.
History lesson for ya:
The husband and son of NY rep Carolyn McCarthy (D) were shot on a NY subway and next thing ya know she wants a ban nationwide on SHOULDER-THINGS-THAT-GO-UP.
Should we have "reached out" to her and "hoped for the best" back then?
I'm afraid you and I will just have to disagree.
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Sgt.Murtaugh said:We are going to have to give up something
None of those would prevent the shootings and don't act like that has mattered in the past. Nothing that has ever passed has ever made a real dent in gun violence. Still, that didn't stop them from passing or being proposed again.Why? Which of the five 'compromises' you listed would have prevented any of the more recent mass shootings?
The common denominator in all of the recent mass shootings seems to be mental illness. I think laws concerning privacy and confidentiality of mental health information are too strict and delay disclosure too long. Rather than waiting until a person is a clear and imminent danger, the focus should be on identifying people with mental disorders and acting earlier to get them help or restrain them.
We are going to have to give up something
please point out where I said I want to hand over the "keys to my safe"
I am being a realist. I have signed petitions, reached out to local representives, and made contributions to the NRA. I still think some restrictive legislation is coming. Expect the worst and hope (and do all i can) for the best.
I'm not gonna lie, I would have no problem with getting a mental examination and closing the "Gun show loophole" if it means that I can keep my gun. I could pass the exam and/or buy a firearm at a gun show with a background check with no problem. The people who can't pass a Bcheck and don't have the mental ability to safely own a gun should not have one. /$0.02
I don't mind this stuff if we can keep our existing firearms without issues.
I do. I have some very serious reservations about both of those. Here's why:thepumpfaction said:I'm not gonna lie, I would have no problem with getting a mental examination and closing the "Gun show loophole" if it means that I can keep my gun. I could pass the exam and/or buy a firearm at a gun show with a background check with no problem. The people who can't pass a Bcheck and don't have the mental ability to safely own a gun should not have one. /$0.02
I don't mind this stuff if we can keep our existing firearms without issues.
I'm not gonna lie, I would have no problem with getting a mental examination and closing the "Gun show loophole" if it means that I can keep my gun.
Wow Hyboost, you are not only advocating restriction on 2A, but also 1) registration and 2) suspension of 4A! That would be worse than a AWB.
1 post...I'm thinking ASHA troll.
thepumpfaction said:I'm not gonna lie, I would have no problem with getting a mental examination and closing the "Gun show loophole" if it means that I can keep my gun
SgtMurtaugh said:But how do you combat the argument that people bring up all the time that goes something like this:
Anti: "well the forefathers didn't foresee what weapons would be like 200 years down the road and they never intended for us to have semi auto rifles that fire 30 rounds so quickly. Nobody wants to take away all your guns, but you have no real need for an AR15"
I hear that argument a lot and I usually don't know the best response to it.
Do you really believe that by consenting to a mental examination you will get to keep your guns? Who is going to judge your mental competency? Do you trust the Government to do this? I don't.
Psych exam to purchase a gun: Assuming that this is meant to be "psych exam to purchase a gun, even in the absence of prior convictions or other disqualifying factors," how long do you think it will be before some legislators conclude that The Desire to Own a Gun = Violent Tendencies = Mental Illness? Ergo, wanting to own a gun means that you're not fit to have one.
Wow Hyboost, you are not only advocating restriction on 2A, but also 1) registration and 2) suspension of 4A! That would be worse than a AWB.
1 post...I'm thinking ASHA troll.