Well, "Gut Instinct" saved my butt!

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This is a good ending. Good job.

I always trust my "gut" feeling. I had a psychology professor say once that a person's gut feeling is the result of conflicting data between unconscious and conscious perceptions, and that if it "feels" wrong it probably is. Took the mysticism out of it but it makes more sense to me now.

Mike
 
Fumegator,
Hey buddy...thanks for the kind words...Im glad I listened too.

And take a deep breath...you can chill about Mike...he's kidding for the most part. I suspect he's doing his best left wing liberal impersonation. :rolleyes: :D OK? No harm no foul.....

Cal...
The local/state laws regarding private party transactions are very limited.
You find someone with a gun you want. You give him money and he gives you the gun. Thats it. We are one of the so called "gunshow loophole states". Because there is no regulation in PPT's..Ill just do it the way I said...CCW permit holders go through more than just a BCI check up....

Mike,
I always trust my "gut" feeling. I had a psychology professor say once that a person's gut feeling is the result of conflicting data between unconscious and conscious perceptions, and that if it "feels" wrong it probably is. Took the mysticism out of it but it makes more sense to me now.

Great explanation...thanks. But to add the mysticism back in it...Sorry, gotta do it. The Conflict is between the Sub/un/conscience minds....

Where does the data come from that is being conflicted?
How does the un/sub..mind get the information?
How does your un/subconscience mind know when to alert your conscience mind?
Why the conflict? Why cant the door open to the conscience mind and let it be known?.......

Or to really add the mysticism...."How about my guardian angel tapping me on the shoulder....If I dont listen, it slams me over the head with a 2x4!"


Shoot well
 
Or to really add the mysticism...."How about my guardian angel tapping me on the shoulder....If I dont listen, it slams me over the head with a 2x4!"
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I think I'd better sign up for that one. :D

Wes
 
IANAP (I an not a psychologist :p ), But...

Where does the data come from that is being conflicted?
How does the un/sub..mind get the information?
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All the information probably comes from you. We see millions of things that we pay no attention to every day. But parts of your mind that developed to protect our ancestors from being eaten are still watching.
How does your un/subconscience mind know when to alert your conscience mind?
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If anyone really understood the selection process for alerting in such a situation, they'd probably have a Nobel at very least.
Why the conflict? Why cant the door open to the conscience mind and let it be known?.......
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Instinct probably developed to save our ancestors in immediate survival situations. If the predator is a few yards away, about to pounce, you don't need a potentially paralyzing overflow of information. You just need to know "get outa here" . :rolleyes:
 
PCR/Fume,

"I haven't seen anyone who supports the reinstating of 2A rights to people who use animal violence without reason."

I was being sarcastic, but I don't think you're looking nearly hard enough, Fume. That's the distinct message that I've gotten any number of times when I've stated that I simply don't like the idea of violent felons having firearms, and in fact have no problems with them being disarmed by law.

1 time armed robber of 20 time ADW, I don't care.
 
In PRK as stated before all legal sales go thru a FFL

thats why if i sell a gun, its either on consignment and i eat the 20% or its to a friend... either way, gun sits at the FFL for 10 days. not my reponsibility... if FBI check comes in late, and they releae the gun.. not my problem. Although i hear they have the backgrounds done usually within 24-48 hours. My pal tells me that whenever they they get a response to not release gun, its within the first day or so... only downside is i cant buy a gun from any of you guys unless you're a PRK resident...

i know, i know... get out, get out.. easier said than done, but were working on it.. wife to be has finally come to realization that true freedon will be on the other side of the wall.. another rant for another thread...
 
I haven't seen anyone who supports the reinstating of 2A rights to people who use animal violence without reason.
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You need to reread the previous threads on interpretation of the 2nd Amendment and restoration of rights to convicts then. It's been repeatedly argued that once a person has served their time, they are entitled to full restoration of all rights, regardless of the crime convicted of.
 
PCRCCW,
Since I live 15 minutes south of you and frequently list guns for sale, drop me an e-mail off of the forum with the guy's name and info so that I can avoid him. Thanks.

tetchaje2002NOSPAM@hotmail.com (take out the NOSPAM part... ;) )
 
Good call, PCR ;)


IIRC, maybe the third or fourth noteworthy deed you've done over the years we're online...


Seems your guardian angel's been working OT. My hat's off to you! :D
 
Saw Dateline, or one of those shows, and they were talking about how easily a woman can be tricked into leaving a safe environment, where she could be forced into a car.

A guy was standing in a mall, and would say something like, "Would you make a statement, on camera, about what you like about this mall? We'll give you a $10 gift certificate.
99% of the women would follow him outside to a van.
(Interestingly, as they would get close to the van, the women would start to lag behind a little. You could tell they didnt' feel good about it, but they went anyway.)
When the door opened, they would see a camera, and he would lecture them on being stupid.

When he would ask, "Didn't you feel, in your gut, that something wasn't right?" They always said "Yes".
He told them, "You've got to trust that gut instinct."

I'm trying to learn to trust my gut, and usually when I don't, I regret it.
 
My most recent experiences indicate that the police do not operate in this manner. Expecting a movie style "pro active" response - complete with you wearing a "wire" and such - will just get you very frustrated.
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Come on, I've seen it a million times on TV, Hill Street Blues, Kojak, NYPD Blue, 3rd Watch, and I've seen it in the movies too! :neener:
 
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Just what is this LE agency planning on doing about the fact that this four-time felon is attempting to purchase a firearm? Nothing?
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If you are interested in maybe having it pursued, you should call BATFE. They have Agents who go after felons-in-possession pretty much full time. I doubt you'll find local LE or prosecutors who will want to go after an "attempted FIP." In most places they have WAY too much on their plates to go after this type of thing.

Personally, I don't have too much heartburn about firearms disabilities for recidivist violent felons. I don't think they've paid their "debt to society" (whatever that means) when they get seven years or less for murder or a few months for armed robbery. Something like 90% of all violent crime is committed by a very tiny portion of the population, who rotate in and out of the prison system, destroying lives every time they are back on the streets. This is why "3 strikes laws" are so effective - at least when they address violent crime - they take the hard core violent recidivists out of action for a LONG time.
 
Two things:

1) He wasn't trying to lure you so he could steal your gun. If he was he would have offered what you were asking.

2) I forgot the other thing.

Jeff
 
Maybe the guy found Jesus and is willing to lead a straight life now. Maybe the LEA is anti private gun sales and gave you bogus information. Maybe he is a good samaritan now after having served his time. Maybe those prior crimes were done in his youth.

Your paranoia reminds me of the antis. They want NO ONE to own guns except the police. In my opinion, your actions are no worse than the anti gun nuts. Besides, what's to say some "goody two shoes" buys a gun in a private deal and then two days later kills everyone in his neighborhood? Get my point?

You said: "Score 1 for the good guys."

I say: "You just scored one for the anti gun nuts."
 
"Maybe the guy found Jesus and is willing to lead a straight life now. Maybe the LEA is anti private gun sales and gave you bogus information. Maybe he is a good samaritan now after having served his time. Maybe those prior crimes were done in his youth."

None of which makes a DAMNED bit of difference if, in fact, the guy has a felony record.

PCR, in my opinion, did the right thing by listening to the little voice.

Quite frankly, this isn't a victory for the antis.

This would have been a quite convincing victory for the antis had PCR sold the gun and then the owner used it to commit a crime. The antis could have seized on that as a poster child example of why private gun sales should be outlawed.
 
James Gang,
Yes Im absolutely sure he was a recent convert to Our Holy Lord..thus his acquiring a Mak 90 the day before he called me initially. He probably bought it to celebrate his recent baptism.....NOT!

My not selling to this guy was anything but an "anti like move"...If I sell to a felon....unknowingly or otherwise...Im all of a sudden a bad guy and possibly could be held civily liable. Guess again.......

Go troll somewhere else......see ya! :neener:
 
Mike Irwin and PCRCCW:

You shouldn’t call James a troll just because he’s consistent in his political beliefs. Nearly all the arguments I’ve heard for prohibiting ex-cons from buying guns is based on the idea that if we allowed them to have guns they might go around killing people with them. Well, so might you. Government should not be in the business of punishing people for what they MIGHT do. So violent felons are more likely to commit crimes in the future. So what. So are African Americans and everyone on this board screams bloody murder when government restricts the rights of African Americans to own guns. A little consistency, please.

Jeff
 
By the way,

I'm not saying that individuals don't have the right to refrain from selling to violent criminals. I'm just saying government doesn't have the right to restrict those sales.

Jeff
 
You shouldn’t call James a troll just because he’s consistent in his political beliefs.
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No, they should call him a troll because he is. Look at how many posts "he" has posted!

Matt
 
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