Wet Tumble Not so Good
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Not so...at least as it relates to handgun brass.
I fill the F.A.R.T. about 1/2-2/3 full of un-deprimed brass (9mm, .38, .40, .45), add a .45ACP case of Lemishine, and a little slurp of Armorall W&W (you only need enough to produce a small amount of suds...like in a HE washer). Then I run it for 1-1.5 hrs, before rinsing with cold water, blot with a large towel, and leave them in the sun for a couple of hours in a turkey pan. The brass comes out with the exterior looking as clean as those done with pins...the interior is not quite as clean, which is mostly a function of the lack of water flow through the case.
The carbon is loosened by the Lemishine, abraded off by the cases rubbing against each other, and held in suspension by the detergent until it is poured off.
I do use pins when I'm cleaning deprimed rifle cases. I like clean primer pockets before a swag them
Berger.Fan222
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Lemishine and dawn do the job for me. But some times I would see the brass tarnishing in a couple of days. I was never sure if it was due to variation in the tap water or variation in the residue on the brass going in.
Tripling the amount of Lemishine solved the problem for me. I'd recommend going from 1 9mm case of lemishine to 3.
Tripling the amount of Lemishine solved the problem for me. I'd recommend going from 1 9mm case of lemishine to 3.
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RussellC, Could you go over that separating of pins again? I missed something I think.
As I said, with pins clean inside and out, including primer pockets. Some dont care. I do so to me its a waste of time. Some may think my double wet double dry is a waste of time. I dont, and I doubt there brass looks as good.
I do the longer method because I dont want to handle the grime, and I dont want all that crap in my expensive Redding Competition micrometer dies.
Plus, with rifle brass I am convinced that clean primer pockets and flash holes, combined with proper primer and consistent primer seating make a difference in accuracy.
Just my method, it works well and Im not about to change. Everyone is able to do what they wish, its their cases. When they come out the first time, they look very nice. After the second go round with pins, they are spic and span inside and out, including the primer pockets. Call me excessive, but to me, less is indeed a waste of time.
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RussellC said:
Thank you for the additional clarity
Your first statement seemed to be saying that others would be wasting their time when not using the pins
Plus, many things I do in all of my hobbies, building guns, reloading, building class A amplifiers, tube amplifiers, etc. are "sleep enhancers" that might keep me up nights wondering. With hobbies, I am in no race.
As to accuracy on rifle rounds, this is advice from benchrest shooters, who think it does make a difference, so I defer to them. That said, my shooting wouldnt be good enough to tell, but.....the possibility it might someday occurs, thus the "sleep enhancing" aspect.
If folks want to reload them as is right out of the gun, good for you, more power! I do it my way as I am in no hurry, and it does a spectacular job, which I find satisfying and thus sleep enhancing. I find it odd folks are so worried about my method. BTW, hows your sleep? LOL.
Make no mistake, I do think they are wasting their time. My opinion only, which I am entitled to. Conversly, they are also entitled to theirs as well, and I fully understand they may think I am wasting my time. Its all good! It also addresses the OPs concerns completely.
Russellc
As to accuracy on rifle rounds, this is advice from benchrest shooters, who think it does make a difference, so I defer to them. That said, my shooting wouldnt be good enough to tell, but.....the possibility it might someday occurs, thus the "sleep enhancing" aspect.
If folks want to reload them as is right out of the gun, good for you, more power! I do it my way as I am in no hurry, and it does a spectacular job, which I find satisfying and thus sleep enhancing. I find it odd folks are so worried about my method. BTW, hows your sleep? LOL.
Make no mistake, I do think they are wasting their time. My opinion only, which I am entitled to. Conversly, they are also entitled to theirs as well, and I fully understand they may think I am wasting my time. Its all good! It also addresses the OPs concerns completely.
Russellc
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I deprime first then use 1/4 teaspoon of Lemishine to approx 1 qt of hot water. One squirt of Dawn. Let it sit for approx 45-60 mins. Rinse, get the excess water off the cases like johnandersonoutdoors mentioned and then let them dry in the sun or overnight. Then they go into a vibratory tumbler with Zilla Ground English Walnut Shells Desert Blend (this blend is small enough that it won't plug the flash hole on any cases) and a little NuFinish. 1 hr in the tumbler. This loosens any residual crap that might be on the cases and adds a little polish. The primer pockets look clean as do the insides of the cases. Is it like new brass? No. Does it have to be? Not in my opinion. It would probably take a laboratory to determine if it made a difference.
Taking out the primers does indeed help with getting primer pocket clean, good you do it at the beginning, that way they get the soak, then the shells.
Your method would get rid of the water marks as well. All good.
I prefer pins to shells,to each their own. Sounds like you are good with your method, thats what counts!
Russellc
As to accuracy, I doubt wet vs dry, properly done would make a difference. I meant primer pocket treatment, flash hole treatment and consistent primer seating in rifle rounds.
Russellc
Apologies to the OP, this has drifted from your original concerns of not so swift looking brass coming out of the FA tumbler. Sorry for the off topic.
After my first stage, using A&A wash n wax and small amount of lemishine, they look nice on the outside, not so much the inside. I use pins after, others here seem to have luck with vibratory cleaners and walnut shells.
Russellc
After my first stage, using A&A wash n wax and small amount of lemishine, they look nice on the outside, not so much the inside. I use pins after, others here seem to have luck with vibratory cleaners and walnut shells.
Russellc
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Dudedog
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I just set mine on a towel in the sunshine, dry pretty quick at 100+ the ones I did the other day when it was 114 in the shade dried REALLY quick in the sunshine
I just set mine on a towel in the sunshine, dry pretty quick at 100+ the ones I did the other day when it was 114 in the shade dried REALLY quick in the sunshine
114? Wow I imagine they indeed dried quickly.
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