What 3 firearms for home defense?

[WestKentucky]

Depends. Realistically it doesnt, but in my mind it does. I have at hand an m9 with 34 rounds ready to go. That gets me to the 20 ga pump gun with 6 rounds of #4 turkey loads. Assuming that doesn't do the trick my 3rd defense weapon is an ar15 with 70 rds ready to go. If I'm still fighting after unleashing 110 rounds then I'm stripping naked and charging them with a pillow, if lead can't kill them maybe laughter, shock, and suprise will do them in.

 

[rcmodel]

I'm sleeping on a SIG P-232 .380 pistol under my pillow tonight, and every night.

If I got time to get up and get more then that??

I'm already too far behind the curve to make up the difference!!

And I sleep light, with one ear open.

rc

 

[bannockburn]

1) SIG P229R with a SIG STL-900L laser/light module.
2) Maverick Model 88 12 gauge shotgun.
3) AR15.

 

[USAF_Vet]

it was a joke, take it or leave it.

Jokes should include some humor. Perhaps include a in the future.

yes I think a bat, shotgun or handgun for home defense is the best.

Best for whom? Only you, sir, only you.

however its ridiculous to have a fully outfitted AR-15/AK-47 ETC.

Why?

Also as far as me telling sharing my knowledge with other members. each state is different in laws so forum members need to know their state laws

They absolutely should. But that isn't what you're doing or saying. Do you know the castle doctrine laws in my state better than I do? I seriously doubt it.

before someone on the forum tells them its okay to dump a 30rd ak-47 mag into someone because he's jiggling your door handle

This is absurd. Where has ANYONE said that? Or are you making up stuff to divert the fact that you're wrong with your "advice" and equally uninformed about state defense laws, based on the poor advice some guy gave you. You know who are notoriously uninformed about laws? Cops. the same sort of guy you got your advice from, and are passing on like it's gospel.

I also stated how everyone should know their laws in their state.

Yeah. You also said a lot of idiot stuff to overwhelm the one point of decent advice.

anyone with half a brain could decipher the shotgun buttox comment.

Based on the idiocy of the rest of your posting, I wasn't quite sure. I may be half a brain short, but I doubt it.

like I said hit him in the head with a bat and be done with it.

Lethal force is lethal force, guy. Whether it's with a baseball bat or a fully outfitted AR-15, you hit a guy and he dies, you had better be able to justify it.

 

[USAF_Vet]

To answer the OP,

My EDC, which is currently a Kel Tec P11 would be my first option.
If in bed, I have a lot of options in the bedroom, from the EDC and other handguns, to the Mav 88 and "fully outfitted" AR-15.

If I'm upstairs in my man cave, I've got options there, as well, but I'm probably grabbing one of the ARs up there, first.

 

[lpsharp88]

I keep a Glock 17 with Surefire X300 ultra on my night stand. I'll either grab that or my AR, guess it depends on how unhappy I am that they woke me up

 

[pcgunner]

First they have to get by him, then I'll decide if I need my pistol or mop...

+1 this

OT...

Beautiful dog! Rotts are my fav

 

[bannockburn]

Yeah I also forgot to mention we have a good size dog who is very aggressive and protective. Sleeps right outside our bedroom door. Got to get past him first before anything else can happen.

 

[Candyman87]

1) M&P Shield is on my hip or in my nightstand.

2) Taurus 85 is on my hip or in my office.

3) Remington 870 under the bed. That's for the girlfriend to barricade herself in the bedroom with as a last case scenario.

 

[jdh]

In California

There in lies your problem.

I did not say just creeping around the yard.


Thanks for noticing me.

 

[19-3Ben]

Honestly, if you are in my house in the middle of the night the absolute last thing I care about is if you are armed or not. You are in my house, where my wife and kids are sleeping. You made a series of bad decisions that lead us here. That is on you. Now, if you retreat then all is well and I will give a good description to the police of the individual who left a puddle in the hall as he ran away. If you advance then you can explain it to the medical staff at the hospital or to the coroner. I am not trying to beat my chest or be a Walter Middy, but that is the reality of things. If you are in my house in the middle of the night I assume you are not here to bake me cookies and I will deal with you accordingly using whatever amount of force is necessary to remove the threat, you, from the situation.

I really have nothing that I could possibly add after Robert's comment above. That says it all.

As for the weapons used, my 1911 and my 12ga Mossberg 500 are right next to the bed. The .410 Mossberg 500 is on my wife's side of the bed. Those are our three main HD weapons. Frankly, I can't imagine needing three, and can barely imagine needing two. Given the setup of the house, our drill is that I take to the hall way with the 12ga. Anything comes down the hall way, it is "dealt with." Wife runs into the baby's room (behind my cover) and brings him into the bedroom. Once they are secure, i retreat to the bedroom with the gun pointed at the door. It's that simple. It's about covering a strategic escape/barricade. You want my TV? fine. Xbox? deal, its yours. So long as my family is safe, anything else you want is fair game.

And I am NOT clearing the damned house. There is one hallway with our bedrooms (raised ranch style house). If I am in that hallway, that one field of fire is all i need to worry about.

 

[jessejames99]

FBI studies show that pistol rounds 9mm 40sw etc....will penetrate further than most ar rifle rounds.......green tips excluded in this factor....that being a scientific fact and proven in real life situation over and over......id prefer an ar15 556 55 grain if that scares you then don't shoot pistol rounds in your house if you're a marksman hell 223 varmit round shot placement is everything

 

[Axis II]

First they have to get by him, then I'll decide if I need my pistol or mop...

is that a dog or black bear!?!? LOL.

 

[Sauer Grapes]

Love the dog!! Mine is more just an early warning system......lol.

HD is usually whatever I have out. Which is always a handgun, which should get me to my gun closet. Sky is the limit from there.

I keep 1 AR mag ready to go if needed.

 

[old lady new shooter]

I did not say just creeping around the yard.

I didn't say you did, I was describing an assortment of possibilities -- forcible entry, suspicious activity outside, actual threat outside. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

FWIW, suspicious activity outside is something I see more frequently than I would like, but as long as it doesn't escalate to an actual threat all I do is watch and pay attention. I must say that since becoming a gun owner and acquiring some shooting skills I find it a lot easier to just watch and pay attention, I think this is because I know I now have the ability to escalate my behavior if the activity were to escalate. So for example, a few weeks ago a guy parked his car in front of my driveway (yes, blocking the driveway) but did not get out... I watched carefully the entire 20 minutes or so he sat there. He was not talking on a cellphone or looking at a map, just sitting there, except for one occasion when he craned his neck out and appeared to be looking at something across the street. Finally, to my great relief, he drove away. So, thankfully no action needed on my part. Then there was the guy one night last week I've now mentally dubbed the "werewolf", who was running down the street making a kind of howling noise, thankfully he kept going after passing my house and seconds later the police helicopters were circling, so again, no action needed.

 

[old lady new shooter]

First they have to get by him, then I'll decide if I need my pistol or mop...

Magnificent dog.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

1) A 9mm pistol
2) 12 gauge shotgun
3) AR-15

 

[Panzerschwein]

1. AR-15 w/ 16" bbl, mid length upper, microdot, tac light.
2. H&K USP-9
3. Mossberg M590A1

 

[jim in Anchorage]

My home defense weapon is an Ithaca M37, loaded with buckshot and a 20" "Deerslayer" barrel. My carry gun is a Kimber Custom Classic .45.

I have exactly the same gun, and use it for bear defense as well as home defense. And it has "slayed" a lot of deer. Why grab a pop gun when you can throw .70 cal 440 gr slugs?

 

[gbran]

AR for those folks firing from the end of the driveway, 8 shot 20" Mossberg next and an 8 shot S&W 627PC for a handgun.

 

[hso]

oilhunter,

You've apparently not looked at the building material penetration tests that have been published/posted. A 55 grain 5.56 is less penetrating than handgun and shotgun rounds (save light birdshot). Spend some time on Box O Truth and you'll see the error in your earlier statements. My friends and I did our own tests before BOT and they were eye openers. We all switched to 5.56 carbines with 55 grain ammunition afterwards because we didn't want to put family and neighbors at more risk than needed. Your advice to avoid unnecessary conflict is spot on, but your opinion on over penetration risks of calibers is grossly and easily demonstrably incorrect.

As to using a baseball bat inside your home...I'm trained with sticks and clubs and I'd pick a lot of things over a ball bat that might hit the ceiling or walls with a swing or that will let an aggressive assailant rush you. A bat might be ok out in the yard, but that's not what we're dealing with in a home defense situation. Drop by our NonFirearms forum here and review the extensive threads on non firearm HD choices.

 

[HGM22]

AR15
Good pistol (I like CZ P01 myself)

Don't need another. Rather have good lights on both guns, optic on rifle, and locks on doors!

 

[BLB68]

As to using a baseball bat inside your home...I'm trained with sticks and clubs and I'd pick a lot of things over a ball bat that might hit the ceiling or walls with a swing or that will let an aggressive assailant rush you. A bat might be ok out in the yard, but that's not what we're dealing with in a home defense situation. Drop by our NonFirearms forum here and review the extensive threads on non firearm HD choices.

Again, I'll agree that there are a lot better choices than a baseball bat (preferably some that don't require bad breath distance to use) . . . but why do people keep implying that the only way to use them is to swing? There's the thrust, the smash, buttstroke to the groin or chin, whatever the technique that scoops into the solar plexus repeatedly is called (taught by a civilian LE counterpart), etc. Certainly a bat's far from ideal, but if you find yourself with a bat handy, it doesn't mean you have to swing it to make use of it.

 

[txblackout]

While I don't think it requires three guns, the best guns for home defense are the shotgun and any pistol 9mm and up or revolver .327 and up. Generally, I don't think rifles are good for inside the home because of they're really not made for tight quarters and the loud noise and blast make them uncomfortable to shoot unless you're wearing hearing protection and if you're shooting at night, you're likely to be blinded by the flash.

Home defense is a short range situation and doesn't require rifle precision. If you're shooting at someone outside your home on your property over 100 yards away, you're going to have a lot of questions to answer as to why you used lethal force on someone a football field away from you who wasn't armed.

I have a 300 blackout SBR with a suppressor and subsonic lehigh max expansion rounds

They wont penetrate too far, will expand in flesh and are hearing safe with the suppressor.

Also have a glock 19 with a suppressor and 147 gr subsonic rounds.

 

[hso]

but why do people keep implying that the only way to use them is to swing?

Because people don't train with them for defensive use and their only muscle memory is to swing (typically overhead) with them. Training can change how people use a bat, but then they could use another tool using those same trained techniques more effectively. It is amazing to watch how many people's startle reaction is to default to untrained technique instead of trained, even after hours of training.