What are the chances of the NY law being repealed?

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I'm not up to speed on the politics side of things.
I'm learning as fast as I can, but it's a complex thing, and having only lived in the States for three years, I'm still very much a beginner.

If you were a gambling man or woman, what odds would you place on the new NY laws being overturned/repealed/nullified?

If this were to happen, how would it take place?
What would the process be?

I understand that this law was not passed via the normal legislative process, and that it was rushed in under some kind of emergency proceedure.

Is the unconventional way in which the law was passed significant in the fight to have it overturned?

I think we New Yorkers need a glimmer of hope, even if a glimmer is all we'll get...
 
I don't know, I don't think it's been as popular as Cuomo was expecting it to be. There seems to be a general air of dissent.
I know that he caught some flak for the way he passed the law, there are a lot of people here on Long Island who intend to protest vigorously, and we have at least one sheriff upstate who has made it very clear that he's not happy.

There's no cause to give up and stop fighting yet, I was just wondering what avenues there are to explore?
 
It may take some time, but I can see the law being thrown out on legal grounds.
 
Sorry, I believe the chance of any significant portion of NY's new gun law being repealed approaches ZERO...

I'm not counting the apparent scrambel to "decriminalize" NY LE who are using weapons, magazines, etc, soon to be forbidden to the general public.
 
IMHO, there may be a few changes made to the new laws, but not much. I think the magazine capacity might go back up to 10 rounds with absolutely no "pre-ban" high capacity mags at all. I think AR/AK type weapons will be allowed to be sold in NY again at some point but with a lot of regulation and registration.

I don't think registration on so called assault weapons is going to be going away in NY. Handguns have been required to be registered in NY for as long as I remember. California has had some type of registration on firearms for years and nothing has ever been done about those.

NYH1.
 
A decade of litigation.

A million dollars in litigation fees.

In an anti-gun jurisdiction, it would likely lose in NY. Smart money says it never gets appealed to SCOTUS in the current climate with the risk of a major loss in SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS is currently 5-4 pro-gun. Could easily swing anti-gun with 1 or more appointees, which will likely occur very soon.

Say the pro-gun position lost at the State Supreme Ct. Would be a HUGE risk asking for cert at the SCOTUS knowing that it could be delayed and an anti-gun judge appointed during the wait.

Hence, I don't think that anyone is going to send it to the court for the time being.
 
In an anti-gun jurisdiction, it would likely lose in NY.
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Stranger things have happened. I do not know if we will win, but there is a lawsuit in the works and I do have hope.
 
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I don't think New Yorkers have the backbone to even try to go against the governor. Kind of sad. what really surprises me is that many gun owners are either for more gun control or are not willing to fight for our 2nd Amendment.
 
Jhco50 is right. We don't have a backbone. The 5,000 people that showed up in Albany a few weeks ago and the 400+ people who showed up last night at a very small town, town hall meeting are spineless.

Thanks man !
 
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Here is a New York State Shooters group that will be fighting back,James:

http://ocshooters.com/Reports/awb/NY-AWB-S8234.html

Lots of info on that link for you to peruse. Keep the faith.:)
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Respectfully, Johnny, I think the link to which you refer deals with the old Assault Weapons Ban. This link is from the same organization, but it deals with actions we are taking with regard to the SAFE NY Act recently passed: http://ocshooters.com/index.html .

I'll be at the rally at Albany (https://www.nysrpa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=881&Itemid=196 ) on February 28th, and I'm easy to find. Just look for the guy wearing a hat with a pissed off look on his face.
 
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I don't think New Yorkers have the backbone to even try to go against the governor. Kind of sad. what really surprises me is that many gun owners are either for more gun control or are not willing to fight for our 2nd Amendment.
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Pretty strong blanket indictment of New Yorkers, don't you think? If you really believe gun owners who reside in New York are any different than those who live in Wyoming, Maine, or even Texas, you need to get out of the house more often.
 
Unfortunately the way in which this lynch mob mentality law was rushed through and the general makeup of New York politics being made up of anti gun left wing Democrats,I think this is going to be a very long and winding road before it is concluded in it's finality.

Perhaps certain firearms manufacturers leaving the state for other more 2A and TAX friendly states might get these wingnuts attention a whole lot faster than the courts.
 
Some parts like the mental health reporting that allows many health professionals to report you using just their opinion will most likely be overturned. I think the 7 round mag limit has a chance to be overturned, but I think 10 may be what we get, pre-bans are likely to stay banned. Registration and ammo purchase restrictions are likely to stay. The new AW definition is a possibility - it depends on what a court determines "is in common use". The restriction on FTF transfers may also be overturned, since it basically shifts the burden of transfers to FFLs without NYS taking any real role in the background check process. I am not a legal scholar, but it seems that making a federally licensed dealer responsible for using federal processes to enforce NY law may be an issue.
 
The New York State Rifle and Pistol Association has filed legal challenge to this Cuomo gun grab law. Whether it does anygood or not ? is anybody`s guess right now. The way it was put together-so sloppily and hastily would suggest if it comes across an honest and fairminded judge(s) it would be
defeated.
Not so sure there any honest or fairminded judges at that level!
 
Being a former New Yorker (it's like being a Marine- there's no 'Ex-" about it), I've been paying close attention to the situation, and I do think that the law as written will not stand- which does not mean repealed, but I suspect a good bit of it will be modified.

2A issues aside, it's a poorly written, poorly conceived bill, that was passed under irregular circumstances.
 
Regardless of your chances you must fight, you must resist. Do everything you can.

Our forefathers resisted against stacking odds. They resolved to 'conquer or die.'

And when the system fails to protect our unalienable Rights, there are still ways to resist..
 
Long Island, NY, is known in our circles for having the loud mouthed, obnoxious, ignorant, ineffective and actually dangerous shooting sports enthusiasts. Long Island Republican and NYC Democrat politicians passed the law. Protests there? Its over Johnnie. Except for poorly-regarded Tea Parties using the bans to raise membership/money...

Republicans and NRA abandoned NY State a long time ago, except for fund-raising for the rest of the country. NY State R & P A is a paper tiger joke -- an old boys club. Actually, I can tell you it is basically only a front nowadays to have an annual officer's expenses-paid picnic and for the cabal of its officers, NRA Board Members, and local sheriff to fire full auto while the slovenly peasants watch and, get this, applaud their princes!!!

Sad. The laws will not be reversed, serf.
 
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