What difference does it make - HP vs. Glock

[GEM]

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/02/24/potd-anzac-pistols-in-iraq/

Interesting pictures, the Australians still stick with the HP and NZ went for the G17. Says Canada is still a BHP user. Didn't know that.

 

[Sistema1927]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[bassjam]

Says Canada is still a BHP user. Didn't know that.

Rumor has it that the Hi Power runs very well when lubricated with maple syrup.

 

[ATLDave]

Rumor has it that the Hi Power runs very well when lubricated with maple syrup.

Do you want ants? 'Cause that's how you get ants.

 

[WVsig]

As much as I love the BHP I am not sure why they would still be fielding it. The gun is discontinued by FN. Factory parts are going to dry up in the next 3-5 years. The are still a great gun for the civilian world but if I was equipping an Army it would not be my choice.

 

[bassjam]

Do you want ants? 'Cause that's how you get ants.

I don't think that's an issue for them, I don't think ants survive up great white north.

 

[FlSwampRat]

Interesting pictures, the Australians still stick with the HP Didn't know that.

Things must be upside down on the bottom of the world when the Ozzies are sticking with Hi Point.

 

[unclenunzie]

That's Grande Puissance to you.

 

[murf]

the new zealand lieutenant is shooting the hi power and the australian corporal is shooting the glock. more dyslexic news from the mainstream media.

murf

 

[Old Dog]

Rumor has it that the Hi Power runs very well when lubricated with maple syrup.

or Labatt's Blue …

The gun is discontinued by FN. Factory parts are going to dry up in the next 3-5 years.

Maybe they've got the Turks making parts for them? Since the Turks are now producing a fairly faithful edition of the Hi-Power … who knows, maybe it's a budget thing, lot been going on in that country lately, but I'll bet the Australians will be switching to something else soon.

the new zealand lieutenant is shooting the hi power and the australian corporal is shooting the glock. more dyslexic news from the mainstream media.

The female LT is the Aussie with the BHP and the male non-com with the Kiwi patch and NZ flag is looking curiously at his new Glock (probably wondering where the safety is) ...

 

[murf]

or Labatt's Blue …
Maybe they've got the Turks making parts for them? Since the Turks are now producing a fairly faithful edition of the Hi-Power … who knows, maybe it's a budget thing, lot been going on in that country lately, but I'll bet the Australians will be switching to something else soon.
The female LT is the Aussie with the BHP and the male non-com with the Kiwi patch and NZ flag is looking curiously at his new Glock (probably wondering where the safety is) ...

I've been dyslexic now for quite some time. thanks for the catch.

murf

 

[FL-NC]

Australian SOF uses Glock.

 

[Old Dog]

I don't think that's an issue for them, I don't think ants survive up great white north.

They sure do have major-league mosquitoes up there in the summer time though.

 

[C-grunt]

I bet it has a lot more to do with the High Power being out of production than the superiority of one gun or there other.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

When I think of the *news* that might be generated by any single photo of me firing what-the-hell ever I might have been holding in uniform and then that was interpreted as a national policy... I crack up a little bit.

It "illustrates *nothing* perfectly" other than over-interpretation of a picture.

Might as well state that it illustrates perfectly that Australians are shorter and have longer hair.

Or

How Glocks are such *PERFECTION* that they don't even need to be aimed.

Todd.

 

[lysanderxiii]

Coupla' things...

1) Given the inventories of pistols in these countries, the size of the armies going down steadily since the 1980s and the number of rounds expended per year per pistol, it will probably be a while before spare parts become a problem.

2) Money is always tight, so unless the pistols are truly at the end of their life, why spend money you don't have to.

3) As the number of serviceable pistols drops below requirements, new pistols will be bought, so more than likely the two will serve alongside each other for many years.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

As much as I love the BHP I am not sure why they would still be fielding it. The gun is discontinued by FN. Factory parts are going to dry up in the next 3-5 years. The are still a great gun for the civilian world but if I was equipping an Army it would not be my choice.

It's the government and they've been stocking them for decades. They probably have warehouses full of parts

 

[SteadyD]

Do you want ants? 'Cause that's how you get ants.

Is this an Archer reference?

 

[Sistema1927]

I am not sure that FN's ceasing production is a factor for Canada, since they have been using Inglis Hi-Powers, and those haven't been manufactured since 1945. The Inglis guns are slightly different dimensionally from the FN guns, since Inglis had to reverse engineer the from drawings made by Saive since FN was then in Nazi hands.

 

[mgmorden]

As much as I love the BHP I am not sure why they would still be fielding it. The gun is discontinued by FN. Factory parts are going to dry up in the next 3-5 years. The are still a great gun for the civilian world but if I was equipping an Army it would not be my choice.

They're not equipping an army - they have an army that is already equipped and the guns just need maintenance. My guess is that they have enough spare parts (and whole pistols) in inventory that what FN does is irrelevant. Plus for any bulk batch I can pretty much guarantee you FN would make whatever a country was willing to pay for.

Make no mistake if I was buying brand new guns I'd never pick the Hi Power, but if I already had a ton of them in inventory I wouldn't feel the need to replace them.

 

[herrwalther]

My favorite (current) whiskey is Knob Creek. 120 proof really hits the spot for me. Can I get Canadian Club for much cheaper? Yes. Do I want to? Not a chance. Countries do that too with their firearms, except in reverse. Keeping Browning hi powers in your Army's holsters for 30+ years saves more money than getting Glocks for everyone.

 

[sequins]

I wish they'd ditch 'em so I could get a cool surplus gun.

 

[WVsig]

They're not equipping an army - they have an army that is already equipped and the guns just need maintenance. My guess is that they have enough spare parts (and whole pistols) in inventory that what FN does is irrelevant. Plus for any bulk batch I can pretty much guarantee you FN would make whatever a country was willing to pay for.

Make no mistake if I was buying brand new guns I'd never pick the Hi Power, but if I already had a ton of them in inventory I wouldn't feel the need to replace them.

I think your wrong on the FN part. It is my understanding that the tool was end of life and it was not worth retooling. They are already running out of some spare parts according to Browning. I spoke with yesterday about ordering parts.

You are right about new Glocks being more expensive in the short run but it you actually have to field the guns in a conflict parts are going to become a problem.

 

[johnmcl]

Hi all,

I would not interpret one photograph as an indicator of an acquisition strategy. In addition, as WVSig pointed out, the logistics of full service provisioning of an out of production sidearm makes little sense.

 

[Dragonfly]

Says Canada is still a BHP user. Didn't know that.

There is a (dreadfully slow) process underway now to replace them. It started more than a year ago and won't finish for another six years. They should just flip a coin between the Glock 17 and SIG M17 and be done with it.