What Gun for Arming the Helpless? A Different Sort of Hypothetical

[3KillerBs]

I sincerely hope that the people on this forum who take the attitude that poverty is purely the result of laziness or some character defect never have to deal with circumstances beyond their control that put them in such a position, and I hope they never have to make the choice between protecting themselves and their family from violence or from starvation.

Amen.

Our case was the last recession causing an industry collapse that took a business out from under us.

When the answer to "What's for dinner?" is not "macaroni and ..." but rather "macaroni" and that came from the church's food cupboard you aren't saving your pennies for a gun, you're scraping them together in hope that you can pay for the water you used to boil that macaroni.

Thank God we were living in a small, quiet, rural town and that it was back when drugs were still rare in such towns and the rare violent crime was due to personal hatred.

 

[3KillerBs]

What about making it voulantary?
They could still get the free gun, but they have to apply to this on their own, to show they are dedicated. You could hand out flyers to get people interested.

I don't recall suggesting that people be rounded up and forcibly trained in the first place. LOL

Thanks for the suggestion of the Sig. I wasn't aware that they made an affordable-class gun.

 

[rfurtkamp]

Thanks for the suggestion of the Sig. I wasn't aware that they made an affordable-class gun.

It's not. Poster is referencing German police surplus P6s, the equivalent of the P225. They're flooded in the market right now, around $300. Additional non-garbage magazines are stupid expensive. They include no warranty or product support; they're sold by importers, not by Sig.

Supply may also dry up at any time, because, well, they *are* surplus.

Used/reconditioned Sigs with support start in the $500s. New guns are now well over $700.

 

[3KillerBs]

the thing that comes to my mind imediatly, is how would someone sort out the people whithout enough courage to actually squeeze the trigger when their life is in danger?

That is a legitimate point. But I would presume that such a person would be unlikely to enroll in the program in the first place.

When such a person encounters violence they are dead regardless so such a program would have no effect, positive or negative, on that particular person. Since criminals can readily get guns anyway, the effect of putting one additional gun into criminal hands is essentially nil.

I see the positives outweighing that minimal drawback.

 

[3KillerBs]

the 80 year old lady who is probably going starve if her electric can opener stops working is gonna load and defend herself with a gun? though you might want to think so, if she hasn't been gun savvy most of her life, one class last year likely isn't the answer to her needs today.
besides, if the young ones knew that at 18 they would be either in the army or jail (or dead); who now does she need protection from?

HUH?

Can we have that in English. With punctuation and grammar, please?

As for what I can decipher, ...

Don't underestimate the elderly. They grew up before we started teaching everyone to be wimps and cowards. Many 80yo women, though failing in the body, are far tougher in their minds than any random 30yo is likely to be.

 

[3KillerBs]

It's not. Poster is referencing German police surplus P6s, the equivalent of the P225. ...

Thanks for the clarification.