What Guns in Production Today Will Still Be in Production 100 Years From Now?

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I have no idea what kind of weapons we will have in 100 years. However, everybody seems to be missing a point about weapons of the future. The civilian sector is about 25 years or more behind what the military is up to. I knew people in the Air Force in the mid '70's who were working on projects that still haven't made their way to us civilians. I saw a demonstration of a laser cutting thru a tank in 1978. The demo was on educational TV.The military has spent trillions on black projects. We just don't have a clue yet what they got for our money. I sure would like to get a peek behind the curtain.:what:
 
If the Planetary Government still allows us peons to own weapons:

1911
SAA
DA revolvers
Lever action rifles

All made entirely of plastic. :evil:
 
>Clay, I think about this too, but remember, there is a lot
> of industry pushing for longer-lasting, more compact
> power sources in a LOT of different devices. A hundred
> years is ETERNITY in technological years.

Technological progress doesn't always move along smoothly. Sometimes it just makes a few giant steps and stops.

Take a look at a cartridge. The cartridge is technology. It incorporates a whole set of other technologies - the forged brass case, the use of an encapsulated primer, a propellant based on nitrated cellulose and maybe nitrated glycerine, and a flat or tapered base bullet, possibly jacketed. That's a long, long way from ramming a round ball down on some black powder and setting it off by scraping a rock against a piece of steel... and that cartridge is no different technology than one made 120 years ago, or 140 if you discount the powder.

Those subtechnologies I referred to are, in turn, based on two primary lines of technological development - the forging of metal, and modern chemistry. Hammered metal goes back to prehistory, but chemistry only goes back two or three hundred years, depending on where you want to place the origin.

We have so *much* technology, and it comes to rapidly, that sometimes it's easy to forget that it all depends on a smallish number of breakthroughs, which mostly come along by accident.

Richard Feynman was a young physicicist who worked on the Manhattan Project. Shortly after the war the Army called Feynman to the Pentagon and he met with a group of generals who wanted to know if he wanted to run his own mini-project. The Army wanted to him to find a way for them to run engines on dirt. The modern mechanized Army was dependent on trucks and tanks, and not only was it a hassle to get fuel up to the front lines, it was flammable and therefore dangerous to people occupying vehicles that were under enemy fire.

If all their equipment burned dirt, all they would need was a bunch of PFCs with shovels, and they were good to go.

The generals were all intelligent, well-educated men. They'd been briefed on the atomic bomb. And what they were asking seemed entirely reasonable to them - if scientists could spend hundreds of millions of dollars to make bombs of exotic metal that exploded really good, it should be simple enough to make dirt burn. It was just technology, right?

Well, no. Unfortunately, there's a lot of wishful thinking out there, some driven by unscrupulous grant-whores in white lab coats, some simply parroted by media flacks who don't know any better. Typical subjects are batteries, solar cells, and fuel cells. The technology for all of these is pretty much pushed to the limit. The only thing that's going to make more than an incremental change is a basic breakthrough, and not only can they not be predicted, sometimes they don't come at all. There *might* be a breakthrough that would let you shovel dirt into your Blazer and drive it to work, but you'd be better off waiting to win the lottery and hiring a chauffeur-driven limo; at least it *might* happen.
 
Guns in production in 2109? Well, maybe...

TRX,

Yes, technology doesn’t always move along smoothly. It can also be halted by events not technical in principle. Nuclear technology is an example, both bombs and power; bombs halted (well, supposedly) by treaty, power by ecologists (some with reason—I’ve worked in Nukes). Note: I’m not taking sides for either one.

Another example is the “Great Interruption”—AD400 to AD1400. Have you ever considered that had the Great Interruption not occurred that we might have put a man on the moon in AD1100 instead of riding off on a Crusade? A full millennium of possibilities wasted.

Guns still in production a century from now will probably be more a result of non-technology than of engineering. Even though I did express a technological opinion.

Clay
 
A 100 years a of time for change especially when you have the means to make changes rapidly.

It took less than a 100 years to go from the first powered flight to the first space flight.

It took less than a 100 years for automotive technology to displace horses in common use.

It took just over a 100 years for telephones went from simple devices that could only send and receive sound, that needed to be plugged in and needed a human operator to manually complete the connection to being a wireless device that sends and receives sound, pictures, video, data with most of the functionality of a computer that easily slips into a pocket and can be used almost anywhere. Some nations had completely skipped landlines for the most part due to their late development. (Sorry about the run on paragraph)

For a gun in production today to still be in production in 100 years there must be a profitable enough customer base to keep them in business. Note that I said profitable enough not large enough. Todays production gun may in 100 years only exist as a reproduction even if the original manufacturer is still in business. It may have to be ordered through the custom shop. Or the only maker may be a small one man shop that only builds them one at a time and will cost you more than a new car for a bare bones model. Then there will be the joy trying to find ammo or components that either have not been made in decades or are only custom made cost you over a days pay to fully load the reproduction.

At the other end of the spectrum all that may be required to buy a current production gun 100 years from now is to walk over to your fabricator and letting it know that you want it to build a firearm whose patent has expired. It checks to see if there are grounds for refusing you a firearm. LE confirms that they have no grounds for denying the firearm. The fab downloads blueprints, if there is more than one type it asks you for which version you want, and takes care of the ATF paperwork. You select the one you want and the fabricator determines if it has sufficient raw materials to build it. If it does not you will have to be loaded with whatever additional raw materials it needs. And it builds a faithfully copy, minus the 3d bar code that is its AFT issued serial number.
 
Assuming all tech will always advance at whatever artificially inflated rate you happen to assign to it is silly bordering on disingenuous.

I'd think SA and DA revolvers will be largely unchanged, as will lever actions. They are effective enough to be wildly popular while being anachronistic enough people don't generally feel the need to totally redesign them all the time.
 
I don't see directed energy weapons for a very long time; we've been working on artillery railguns for 50 years and just got told that it MIGHT be ready by 2040. Unless someone can come up with a viable power source that can revolutionize modern weaponry like how the lithium ion battery revolutionized electronics, we will be lucky to see the standard cartridge get phased out within the next 100+ years.
 
S&W 38spl Snub
1911
Remington 870
Winchester bolt action M70
Ruger MkXI 22lr auto
 
In Star Wars, with all the cool laser guns, missiles are stil around and jedi use swords. The AK, AR, and such like will be around, but laser rifles arn't happening. Way too many issue to work out first. And, guns are much simpler.
 
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