What is the least useful self-defense advice you have ever heard?

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I was taught that racking a shotgun is a surefire way to get attention....not necessarily to deter.

I learned this in a middle-school hunter's Ed. course I took (yes that far back, they allowed us to take firearms classes in school...1994 with parental consent). During the day about shotguns, the instructor (a state police officer) walked in while we were all being loud....he racked an unloaded shotgun. Silence.

He used that as the first point....shotgun racking can be loud, deer and other animals will hear one being racked, and it can spook them.

After class I asked him about that sound in home defense....while he stated I was too young to worry about that, to ever rely on that tactic is asking for trouble.

That was from a veteran officer, who has been in a few return fire situations. Those words stay in my head to this day.
 
"If someone threatens me with a gun, I'll take it away and use it against them."

"What do you need a gun for? Just fight with your fists."

"If you carry a knife, someone will stab you, and if you carry a gun, someone will shoot you."
 
"You should keep your guns unloaded and locked away, with your ammunition stored in a separate location."
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I've never heard this as self-defense advice, just as "keep your kids from playing with your guns and getting hurt" advice. If you have kids, I would imagine that this is a very good idea
It would be better self-defense advice if it was "keep all but one or two guns unloaded and locked away with the ammo in a seperate location."
 
"Just hit them with a palm strike in the nose and it will send bone fragments into their brain and kill them"

At which point in the confrontation am I supposed to do this? Maybe after some spin-kicks and doing the splits in between a couple of chairs while throwing them over the top of my head?

I've heard this silliness from different people over the years but I never heard exactly which bone was supposed to have the mythical power. As far as I can see, if you can punch someone's nose hard enough to brain 'em with the sphenoid, vomer or ethmoid bone, you could kill them by punching them just about anywhere.
 
when i need a good laugh i come to this thread. this is probally the funniest thread that i have seen in a long time.
 
at close quarters isn't birdshot almost as lethal as buckshot so the target takes a birdshot round a buckshot round and your going to shoot him with a slug.?
probably need air support take whatever it is?

870 being racked has got me out of a tricky situation that the slipping of safety catches off a couple of hk53s did'nt really get the point across
:D

My own stupidity to a Journolist this sniper rifle fires neutron rounds that will pentrate a tanks armour and kill the crew with radiation posioning:banghead:
I did'nt think they'd print it :uhoh:
I certainly did'nt think the chain of command would find out:(

fortunatly British generals are not very good at the whole balling people out :D
 
The idea of tying my key chain to my wrist, to somehow enhance my ability to use my car key as a weapon.
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But maybe it's just me. Can anyone explain the value in this?
 
...Racking the Slide...

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...you can laugh all you want...but those of us who've been out there in the dark alleys and burgled buildings and rowdy bars and tell you that racking a 12 ga. will get some respectful attention have done it and know what we're talking about...I've seen it often and done it often...and seen it cause the power brakes built into Converse tennis shoes to lock up!!!! Does it always work...no...but more often than not...and you don't have to say a word...but don't let the voice of experience(that we gained while you were home asleep in your warm bed) keep you from mocking...that's OK...
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+100. I have SEVERAL suspects turn very pale and "exit stage right" in a hurry. Also if you have never looked down the barrel of a loaded 12 ga in the hands of someone willing and able to use it, then you have not had a "significant emotional event."
 
advice to ponder

Written in archaic language, but still understandable:

-The most useful:

"The horse is prepared for the day of battle, but safety is of the Lord.

-Least:

"Everyone line up on the Forward Edge of the Battle Field, and on signal
walk quickly across, not getting ahead or behind the men next to you, and
assault those dug in positions!"
 
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The idea of tying my key chain to my wrist, to somehow enhance my ability to use my car key as a weapon.

But maybe it's just me. Can anyone explain the value in this?
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Kelly McCann shows in the video Minimum Damage Maximum Effect how to use keys properly which is demonstrated in that photo you posted.

Improvised weapons like that and unarmed combatives are a transitional measure to aid escape or get to a weapon.
 
Ok, I'll post one. It was a guy in college that lived across the hall from me in the dorm.

I'm a little hazy on the specifics of how we got there, but the end of the conversation stuck with me to this day.

We get in a conversation about guns, gun control, and self defense. His tortured logic on what should or should not be banned leads me to start running through various scenarios to see if there was any rhyme or reason to his thought processes. I was at the point of figuring his problem with guns was that he didn't think he had a chance of defending himself against one, and did have a chance against other weapons (he didn't, trust me on this). How wrong I was.

Me: Ok, so how about if you are walking down to the convenience store, and someone grabs you from behind, and shoves a gun in your face and threatens to kill you if you don't give them your money?

Him: Yeah, if you do anything, you're going to die.

Me: OK, same thing, but this time the guy grabs you in a headlock from behind, and puts a knife to your throat instead of holding a gun to your head. Is it really any less dangerous or threatening to your life.

Him: Hell yeah, I'll kick his ass.

Me: How? He got you by surprise, and basically if yo do anything he can use lethal force on you before you do squat. How is a gun ore dangerous in that scenario than a knife?

Him: Well, if someone comes after you with a gun, he's going to shoot you. I mean why else would he have a gun?

Me: And the knife?

Him: What is he going to do? STAB ME?!?!

Me: YES!

Him: No way man.

RA who was a couple doors down playing video games and trying to ignore us. (name of above idiot), you're a retard!

Me: So knives aren't really dangerous, because nobody would ever actually stab someone else with one, but guns are dangerous because anybody who has one will inevitably shoot you?

Him: Yes.

Me: You are a retard, I'm going to my room.
 
I hate when people say " you don't have to kill someone who is attacking you just shoot them in the leg/foot "



:banghead:
 
...you can laugh all you want...but those of us who've been out there in the dark alleys and burgled buildings and rowdy bars and tell you that racking a 12 ga. will get some respectful attention
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No one is saying it *won't* work. Just that counting on it working is foolish.

As for the topic of the thread...

"The Taurus Judge was *specifically* designed to be used as a contact weapon with birdshot. Not from 12", but pressed up against the target."

Which is funny, because the way it's marketed is worthy of this thread as well.
".410 birdshot FROM A PISTOL is a great self defense round!"
 
In the event of a home invasion, gather your family and lock yourselves in a room. Then, from behind the locked door, yell, "I've got a gun."

This sterling strategy was from a firearms instructor.
 
^ as opposed to not having a gun and saying nothing? I'm sure this advice was given not as an alternative to having a gun, but rather as an example of something an unarmed person could do, if escape was not a viable option.
 
You'd better hope that the intruder doesn't have a gun... because bullets can go through doors, and he knows EXACTLY which one you and your family are behind.
 
mbt2001 said:
"Use your pistol to fight to your rifle..."

"A handgun is for shooting your way to your rifle"

Whichever version I think that this saying is idiotic.
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I wouldn't call Clint Smith exactly idiotic... :rolleyes:

But you do need to take it in context. The point is that compared to most rifle calibers, any pistol caliber is underwhelming.

The quote was mainly meant for LEOs, as most people will never have to go knowingly into harm's way. Therefore, you fight with the best weapon you have on you at the time when harm finds you...which will likely be a pistol. If you DO have to go into harm's way, take a better gun.

-Mark
 
+1 mrokern Handguns are sidearms meant for convenient and comfortable carry. They will do the trick but a good long arm will always be a superior weapon. Speaking of long arms and to stay on topic I heard a friend of mine say he would unload his battery powered air-soft rifle on an intruder.
 
Quote; "he would unload his battery powered air-soft rifle on an intruder"

Thats absolutely priceless:D

Mike
 
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