iliketoshootguns
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Let's say a bg jumps in your back yard and you have a choice of any dog to give him a nice suprise. Which one would it be, or do you currently have?
What is the most effective guard dog?
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German Shepards
They are the best dogs in the world (IMHO). They are one of the smartest breeds of dogs (fact). They have great instincts, are easy to train, and are as loyal as the day is long. I cannot speak highly enough of these dogs. I have two. One is an 80lb female and the other, the male, is 115 pounds of teeth and muscle. I've tought him to fetch beers from the fridge... He he he, shh dont tell the wife.
They are the best dogs in the world (IMHO). They are one of the smartest breeds of dogs (fact). They have great instincts, are easy to train, and are as loyal as the day is long. I cannot speak highly enough of these dogs. I have two. One is an 80lb female and the other, the male, is 115 pounds of teeth and muscle. I've tought him to fetch beers from the fridge... He he he, shh dont tell the wife.
warwagon
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Re: Guard dogs
There are many breeds that are tenacious guards, however, you did not specify wether there children , or innocent adults involved. That should be taken into consideration.
The ones I would recomend, Boxer, Alsation, any of the Mastiff family, and last but possibly the best all around dog, the Bouvier De flanders.
Labradors work well for me.Backed with a .45 auto(keep it gun sensitive)
If you need help, IM me, and I will do what I can, It is kind of a custom issue!
Best regards,
Blair
There are many breeds that are tenacious guards, however, you did not specify wether there children , or innocent adults involved. That should be taken into consideration.
The ones I would recomend, Boxer, Alsation, any of the Mastiff family, and last but possibly the best all around dog, the Bouvier De flanders.
Labradors work well for me.Backed with a .45 auto(keep it gun sensitive)
If you need help, IM me, and I will do what I can, It is kind of a custom issue!
Best regards,
Blair
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I used to keep Rottweilers, had 5 in total over the years, only the first one went nuts, nearly bit my pals hand off
The others were great though, very big, very powerful and very protective of me and my property. When ever stranger came round the dogs alway left them with in impression that they were gonna get their throats ripped out
Also had a Boxer and Staffordshire Bull terrier they were also great as pets not so much as guard dogs though.
The others were great though, very big, very powerful and very protective of me and my property. When ever stranger came round the dogs alway left them with in impression that they were gonna get their throats ripped out
Also had a Boxer and Staffordshire Bull terrier they were also great as pets not so much as guard dogs though.
XavierBreath
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I'm a believer in a German Shepherd.
Many guard dogs can be diverted with a porkchop on a cat. Few German Shepherds will fall for that. Brains mean as much as size and brawn.
Many guard dogs can be diverted with a porkchop on a cat. Few German Shepherds will fall for that. Brains mean as much as size and brawn.
Another german shepherd owner and fan here. The only bad thing about them is the shedding. I had a boxer who made a great guard dog as well but she was not the barker that my shepherd is. I now have pit mix who is okay as a guard dog but she is easily distracted by chasing a squirrell. I consider her back up to my shepherd. My dogs are family members/pets first, guard dogs second.
ROAshooter
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Dogs
I will agree with all.....German Shepards.....cando/willdo.
Miss mine everyday.....was an amazing animal.....best bud a guy could ever want. But..as it happens....time marches on...and it is a crushing day to put them down.
With that said.....had a caring friend.....talk me into a Rat Terrior....just to tide me over my grief. Or as I have come to call him.....a Velocitor Ratter.
Dont mess with this guy.....he may not be a big dog....but he doesnt know it. I swear he is possessed with a demon.....scares the living crap outta me ..when I provoke him outta fun. Nothing but teeth and a willingness to use them. As a breed.....they are bred as rat killers.....not rat maimers....not rat hearders......KILLERS. Seen him do it..fast.efficent.dedicated.
Challenge anyone/anything to attempt to sneak past.....sure cant outrun the little s**t.....all twenty pounds. And he has knocked me down..with a full tilt charge and stiff arm to the back.
He does the watching....alerting....distracting....I will back him up with the firepower.
I will agree with all.....German Shepards.....cando/willdo.
Miss mine everyday.....was an amazing animal.....best bud a guy could ever want. But..as it happens....time marches on...and it is a crushing day to put them down.
With that said.....had a caring friend.....talk me into a Rat Terrior....just to tide me over my grief. Or as I have come to call him.....a Velocitor Ratter.
Dont mess with this guy.....he may not be a big dog....but he doesnt know it. I swear he is possessed with a demon.....scares the living crap outta me ..when I provoke him outta fun. Nothing but teeth and a willingness to use them. As a breed.....they are bred as rat killers.....not rat maimers....not rat hearders......KILLERS. Seen him do it..fast.efficent.dedicated.
Challenge anyone/anything to attempt to sneak past.....sure cant outrun the little s**t.....all twenty pounds. And he has knocked me down..with a full tilt charge and stiff arm to the back.
He does the watching....alerting....distracting....I will back him up with the firepower.
1 old 0311
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ANYTHING that barks. A dog is a early warning system, NOT a defensive weapon.
das028
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As far as inflicting damage, no other dog can match a pitbulls jaw strength and overall tenacity. When pits fight they will fight to the death, but they usually do not make good guard dogs.
For a good guard dog I'll have to agree with Kevin Quinlan. Get one that barks!
For a good guard dog I'll have to agree with Kevin Quinlan. Get one that barks!
carterbeauford
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Yup! My girl brings her 4lb Yorkie over on weekends. I feel safer with it around.
If you want something that is physically capable of defending you, a Bullmastiff is hard to beat.
bigger jon
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German Shepard all the way
I had a female i traned to be a gard dog she was a smart as her 135lp police k9 father named Tank, My dog Dutchas was 115 lp and wouldnt hurt my family or our friends she also wouldnt mind any one else but the family and if anyone would try to speek to her in german she would show her teeth
When i was on a hunting trip my wife and kid were home alone at 12am they woke up to hear the police on a loud speaker accross the street they were trying to catch a BG, Anyhow the dummy decited to jump my fince and try a get a way, My gril had him full of holes befor you knew it And my wife had to tell the cops that she was trained to attack at the site of guns so they watched my wife call her off the BG from the other side of the fince
Cant sat enoughf about the breed i`am on my 3ed generation now and thats the only reason i can leave my house unlocked.
I had a female i traned to be a gard dog she was a smart as her 135lp police k9 father named Tank, My dog Dutchas was 115 lp and wouldnt hurt my family or our friends she also wouldnt mind any one else but the family and if anyone would try to speek to her in german she would show her teeth
When i was on a hunting trip my wife and kid were home alone at 12am they woke up to hear the police on a loud speaker accross the street they were trying to catch a BG, Anyhow the dummy decited to jump my fince and try a get a way, My gril had him full of holes befor you knew it
And my wife had to tell the cops that she was trained to attack at the site of guns so they watched my wife call her off the BG from the other side of the fince Cant sat enoughf about the breed i`am on my 3ed generation now and thats the only reason i can leave my house unlocked.
das028
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"Cant sat enoughf about the breed i`am on my 3ed generation now and thats the only reason i can leave my house unlocked."
Dont know if thats the smart thing to do! If somebody really wants to get in your house I dont think a dog is going to stop them.
Dont know if thats the smart thing to do! If somebody really wants to get in your house I dont think a dog is going to stop them.
El Tejon
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Friend has a short-haired Collie, a very smart animal.
He calls it "Tripwire."
http://www2.flickr.com/photos/shutterbugf/9330923/in/set-153383/
He calls it "Tripwire."
http://www2.flickr.com/photos/shutterbugf/9330923/in/set-153383/
Boxers!!! Smart loyal tenacious Stoic smart undershot jaw helps in holding as opposed to a cutting action of Shepard Pinschers and other long snout breeds. Great family and guard dogs. Very protective and selfless. Have 2 now, lost a female 4 years ago and she was a force to be reckonned with. Seen some Shepards get to aggresive with non family members, and attack people for no real reason.
bulltaco
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Akita
Best dog I've ever had. Loved children and not very active until necessary. Made friends with neighbors' dogs but had his priorities. Wasted a chow-cross that killed one of my Jack Russells. Stopped a breakin when no-one was home. Loved to be outdoors when temperature dropped to the 20s and below. Highly recommend the breed to one who loves and knows dogs. Always check out bloodlines and parents if they are available. Looking at the Rhodesian Ridgeback breed now. Something different in a dog breed that hasn't been overbred......yet.
Best dog I've ever had. Loved children and not very active until necessary. Made friends with neighbors' dogs but had his priorities. Wasted a chow-cross that killed one of my Jack Russells. Stopped a breakin when no-one was home. Loved to be outdoors when temperature dropped to the 20s and below. Highly recommend the breed to one who loves and knows dogs. Always check out bloodlines and parents if they are available. Looking at the Rhodesian Ridgeback breed now. Something different in a dog breed that hasn't been overbred......yet.
I have had akitas and germanshepards both were great but truth be told the best guard dog I ever had was an english pointer. With her on the job nobody would come in the house and she made one hell of a baby sitter too. None of the younguns could get close to the street or the stairs or the bbq grill.
one shot one kill
one shot one kill
Don Gwinn
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I have two mutts. They aren't well trained, but they're loud and they know who their family is.
My best friend for over 10 years was a male Rottweiler. Boulderdash. I took him to work every day for over a year and he had been all over the western US. He was known by hundreds of people and had been to the home of everyone I know. He was highly intelligent, easy to train, and highly effective as a guard dog.
He saw the elephant more than once.
Someone jimmied open my back sliding glass door. He made it about two feet inside the door and was torn limb from limb.
Someone broke into my pickup while it was parked with the engine running (limo tinted windows). They didn't account for the dog lying on the seat. He got the door open and was torn limb from limb.
In case you didn't notice, he didn't bark. He sat there and anxiously awaited their arrival. The idea wasn't for him to bark or growl to alert me, he simply took care of the problem and let me sleep. Immediately after the incident was over (about five seconds) he got a little drink and layed back down for a nap. He wasn't someone that "got the talking done" his first and only response to a threat was explosive aggression.
Sadly, he died about six months ago.
I openly wept.
I still have people walking up to me and telling me how sorry they are that he is dead.
I can't wait to get another one. Rottweilers are the king of dogs. Mine was second second in command of the world.
He saw the elephant more than once.
Someone jimmied open my back sliding glass door. He made it about two feet inside the door and was torn limb from limb.
Someone broke into my pickup while it was parked with the engine running (limo tinted windows). They didn't account for the dog lying on the seat. He got the door open and was torn limb from limb.
In case you didn't notice, he didn't bark. He sat there and anxiously awaited their arrival. The idea wasn't for him to bark or growl to alert me, he simply took care of the problem and let me sleep. Immediately after the incident was over (about five seconds) he got a little drink and layed back down for a nap. He wasn't someone that "got the talking done" his first and only response to a threat was explosive aggression.
Sadly, he died about six months ago.
I openly wept.
I still have people walking up to me and telling me how sorry they are that he is dead.
I can't wait to get another one. Rottweilers are the king of dogs. Mine was second second in command of the world.
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German Shepherd = Dog Perfected
I'm under the impression that most folks who have ever owned a GSD or worked closely with one end up sold on the breed for life. A German Shepherd is a well-rounded, intelligent working breed that's just as comfortable snuggling with family as it is working/guarding. It's one of the few breeds that would make an ideal family pet (including for a young family with children) and a capable guard dog. And though appearance is certainly a subjective matter, I believe the GSD is the most noble and majestic in appearance of all canines on God's green Earth. The breed is eager to please, but has no problem lounging around when his day is done.
Image from Germanshepherds.com
Semantic....
I'd like to point out while we're on this topic that I've always felt there should be a distinction made between a guard dog and a watch dog. While just about any (watch) dog can serve as an effective deterrent and early warning for their masters, having a (guard) dog with the additional ability to take things to the next level (initiating an effective attack) along with the intelligence to know when it's appropriate to do so is more appealing for some, myself included. It's a personal thing to be sure; some are justifiably quite uncomfortable with the liabilities involved with owning a potentially dangerous dog. It's a choice one should never take lightly. However, a well bred, well trained GSD is possibly the safest bet when choosing a guard dog.
I'm sure there are other breeds out there with well-deserved merits, but it is my firm personal belief that the German Shepherd is "Dog Perfected".
Now, on to specifically answer this particular question. I'd probably choose a large 130 pound Cane Corso since there's no mention of it serving as a family pet... not that they would make poor choices as I have no idea... but heck, one would sure would make for a nasty surprise!
Photo of Roman Cane Corso from Romancanecorso.com
I'm under the impression that most folks who have ever owned a GSD or worked closely with one end up sold on the breed for life. A German Shepherd is a well-rounded, intelligent working breed that's just as comfortable snuggling with family as it is working/guarding. It's one of the few breeds that would make an ideal family pet (including for a young family with children) and a capable guard dog. And though appearance is certainly a subjective matter, I believe the GSD is the most noble and majestic in appearance of all canines on God's green Earth. The breed is eager to please, but has no problem lounging around when his day is done.
Image from Germanshepherds.com
Semantic....
I'd like to point out while we're on this topic that I've always felt there should be a distinction made between a guard dog and a watch dog. While just about any (watch) dog can serve as an effective deterrent and early warning for their masters, having a (guard) dog with the additional ability to take things to the next level (initiating an effective attack) along with the intelligence to know when it's appropriate to do so is more appealing for some, myself included. It's a personal thing to be sure; some are justifiably quite uncomfortable with the liabilities involved with owning a potentially dangerous dog. It's a choice one should never take lightly. However, a well bred, well trained GSD is possibly the safest bet when choosing a guard dog.
I'm sure there are other breeds out there with well-deserved merits, but it is my firm personal belief that the German Shepherd is "Dog Perfected".
Now, on to specifically answer this particular question. I'd probably choose a large 130 pound Cane Corso since there's no mention of it serving as a family pet... not that they would make poor choices as I have no idea... but heck, one would sure would make for a nasty surprise!
Photo of Roman Cane Corso from Romancanecorso.com
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crowbardog
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effective guard dogs
I like this thread because it illustrates how people become partial to certain breeds.
I’ve had the pleasure of owning many different breeds of dogs over my lifetime. I’ve owned a cocker spaniel, a mutt, 3 Labradors, a Shih Tzu, a Doberman Pincer, and an American Pit Bull Terrier. I currently own the APBT. His name is Crowbar (only dog I’ve ever heard of with this name) and he’s about 8 years old.
The smartest dog I’ve ever had was one of the labs, a female. The most annoying was the cocker spaniel. She was just plain dumb. The Pit Bull is by far the most entertaining.
The Pit Bull is wonderful with all humans, adult and child alike, with the caveat that I’ve introduced everyone. He hates other dogs, however. Other dogs that is, except for my neighbors 120 lb male German Shepard. I don’t know what it is with these two guys. Two aggressive breed dogs that are serious buddies.
Crowbar actually broke one of his k9 teeth on a chain link fence when he was younger. He was trying to get at a passerby and was chewing on the fence. He stopped chewing on the fence after that. This little 58 lb ball of muscle is a pretty good reason to stay out of my house.
As far as the best attack dog, a German Shepard with the proper training would be my first choice. The best home guard dog is any dog that loves its family and is brave enough to put itself between them and the bad guy, while Papa gets the gun.
This is the only picture I have of Crowbar on this laptop. I had a few too many beers this evening. I let him tear up the tighty whities afterwards.
I like this thread because it illustrates how people become partial to certain breeds.
I’ve had the pleasure of owning many different breeds of dogs over my lifetime. I’ve owned a cocker spaniel, a mutt, 3 Labradors, a Shih Tzu, a Doberman Pincer, and an American Pit Bull Terrier. I currently own the APBT. His name is Crowbar (only dog I’ve ever heard of with this name) and he’s about 8 years old.
The smartest dog I’ve ever had was one of the labs, a female. The most annoying was the cocker spaniel. She was just plain dumb. The Pit Bull is by far the most entertaining.
The Pit Bull is wonderful with all humans, adult and child alike, with the caveat that I’ve introduced everyone. He hates other dogs, however. Other dogs that is, except for my neighbors 120 lb male German Shepard. I don’t know what it is with these two guys. Two aggressive breed dogs that are serious buddies.
Crowbar actually broke one of his k9 teeth on a chain link fence when he was younger. He was trying to get at a passerby and was chewing on the fence. He stopped chewing on the fence after that. This little 58 lb ball of muscle is a pretty good reason to stay out of my house.
As far as the best attack dog, a German Shepard with the proper training would be my first choice. The best home guard dog is any dog that loves its family and is brave enough to put itself between them and the bad guy, while Papa gets the gun.
This is the only picture I have of Crowbar on this laptop. I had a few too many beers this evening. I let him tear up the tighty whities afterwards.
trueblue1776
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FILA BRASILEIRO IS A SCARY MOFO
Whats the best guard do is like whats the best gun. Depends on how you shoot, what caliber you like, how you want it to look, etc.. and even if you buy the best one in the world, there is always someone who got a lemon and will happily tell you that your type of dog is useless.
For the sake of farting in the wind look up the Fila Brasileiro ( www.fila.org ) those dogs are the best estate protection dogs that I know of, the best part about it is they require no training. But they will eat people that don't look like you. I am partial to the Neapolitan Mastiff like Bluesman, but due to slobber restictions imposed by my wife we are American Bulldog folks. Our breeder of choice is www.southernshowcase.com some very intuitive dogs, worth considering, 100lbs of rippling muscle can't hurt either, plus they have a natural love for children.
Whats the best guard do is like whats the best gun. Depends on how you shoot, what caliber you like, how you want it to look, etc.. and even if you buy the best one in the world, there is always someone who got a lemon and will happily tell you that your type of dog is useless.
For the sake of farting in the wind look up the Fila Brasileiro ( www.fila.org ) those dogs are the best estate protection dogs that I know of, the best part about it is they require no training. But they will eat people that don't look like you. I am partial to the Neapolitan Mastiff like Bluesman, but due to slobber restictions imposed by my wife we are American Bulldog folks. Our breeder of choice is www.southernshowcase.com some very intuitive dogs, worth considering, 100lbs of rippling muscle can't hurt either, plus they have a natural love for children.
.357 magnum
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Best Guard Dog.
I am happy to see so many German Shepherd Lovers! I have a rather small Female weighs in around 75 lbs. They are the most intelligent, loyal, dogs I have ever been around. Great around children! Very protective. She is an excellent guard dog. Very much into guarding the house and yard. She woke me up one night at 100am went flying throught he house ended up growling at the front door ready to go. I was up with a gun ready in a sec. Turns out there was someone getting out of a car two houses down having a conversation. You make think that is over sensitive, but a dog is there to alert you, not defend you. Hell thats what I have guns for. The dog is part of my family. GSD are awesome dogs, she makes my lab seem like she has the IQ of a brick. I will always have GSD dogs until the good Lord takes me. I was exposed to an Akita dog not long ago. Also an excellent guard dog. They were bred to hunt Bears! Don't ya love it! They are also very intelligent. An Akita-GSD combo would be awesome!
I am happy to see so many German Shepherd Lovers! I have a rather small Female weighs in around 75 lbs. They are the most intelligent, loyal, dogs I have ever been around. Great around children! Very protective. She is an excellent guard dog. Very much into guarding the house and yard. She woke me up one night at 100am went flying throught he house ended up growling at the front door ready to go. I was up with a gun ready in a sec. Turns out there was someone getting out of a car two houses down having a conversation. You make think that is over sensitive, but a dog is there to alert you, not defend you. Hell thats what I have guns for. The dog is part of my family. GSD are awesome dogs, she makes my lab seem like she has the IQ of a brick. I will always have GSD dogs until the good Lord takes me. I was exposed to an Akita dog not long ago. Also an excellent guard dog. They were bred to hunt Bears! Don't ya love it! They are also very intelligent. An Akita-GSD combo would be awesome!
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Fred Fuller
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Filas (Fila Brasileiros or Brazilian Mastiffs) are only scary if you're someplace you don't belong, doing something you shouldn't be doing, and there's a Fila present who owns the place or a person who is nearby. Take a look at the pictures at http://www.aphelionart.com/fco.html - do these look like scary dogs to you? These are from the Costume competition at last year's FBCA Nationals in Charlotte, NC. All the pics from the show are at http://www.aphelionart.com/filaindex.html .
We've had our first Fila for about two years now, and she's the most comforting dog I've ever been owned by. I do not worry one whit about my wife being home or about both of us being gone from the house when the dog is there. And that is what a genuine guard dog is for.
Make no mistake about it, Filas can be dangerous. They are large, courageous, powerful, deceptively fast dogs. They simply do not like strangers, strangers being anyone they don't know well- it is a predominant breed characteristic. They DO need training- obedience training, and they do need proper socialization. No bite work necessary, no other sort of hardening or anything else of that nature- in a properly bred Fila with correct temperament all that is instinctive.
We installed good fences (two layers, 8000 volts) before we ever got the dog. We never leave gates open or unlocked, or doors unlocked either. We don't want anyone wandering onto the place by accident. Filas require responsible owners who are willing to familiarize themselves with the breed and to live with what owning a Fila requires- tolerance for drool and a responsible attitude about owning a genuinely protective dog being primary attributes of a Fila owner.
http://www.eanlo.com/index_files/Page308.htm
http://www.southlandfarms.com/html/are_you_ready_for_a_fila_.html
http://www.nodibkennels.com/
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We've had our first Fila for about two years now, and she's the most comforting dog I've ever been owned by. I do not worry one whit about my wife being home or about both of us being gone from the house when the dog is there. And that is what a genuine guard dog is for.
Make no mistake about it, Filas can be dangerous. They are large, courageous, powerful, deceptively fast dogs. They simply do not like strangers, strangers being anyone they don't know well- it is a predominant breed characteristic. They DO need training- obedience training, and they do need proper socialization. No bite work necessary, no other sort of hardening or anything else of that nature- in a properly bred Fila with correct temperament all that is instinctive.
We installed good fences (two layers, 8000 volts) before we ever got the dog. We never leave gates open or unlocked, or doors unlocked either. We don't want anyone wandering onto the place by accident. Filas require responsible owners who are willing to familiarize themselves with the breed and to live with what owning a Fila requires- tolerance for drool and a responsible attitude about owning a genuinely protective dog being primary attributes of a Fila owner.
http://www.eanlo.com/index_files/Page308.htm
http://www.southlandfarms.com/html/are_you_ready_for_a_fila_.html
http://www.nodibkennels.com/
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