What Next?

[Texasred]

dHere is my gun experience

Rifles:
Stag lower/RRA 16" HBBL
Stag M3 (the flat top w/ BUIS)
Stripped stag to make into a 6.8 or 20"(either LMT or closest milspec upper)
STG 2000 7.62
Saiga 7.62 (unconverted)
Saiga 7.62 (unconverted)
Yugo SKS
Norinco SKS
Mosin 91/30
Mosin M38
Inland M1 carbine
Winchester M1 carbine
M1A Loaded
Uzi Carbine
Remington 700 Sendero .25-06
Remington 700 Varmint Laminate 7mm Rem Mag

Shotguns:
Bennelli Nova
Remington 870 Express Super Magnum
Mossberg 590

Handguns:
Ruger GP 100 6"
Glock 20
Glock 30
CZ 52
Ruger Super Redhawk .454

Guns I Had:
Ruger Mini 14 Ranch (sold, regret dearly, first gun never jammed with any after market magazine, killed a hog with it too)
Ruger Single Six ( gave to my little sister, good cause)
Ruger Mark III (sold because I could not, nor anyone at gun show, put back together, no regrets)
Stoeger Cougar 9mm ( sold, regret it, good gun)
Saiga 308 (sold, shot two boxes, never gave the gun a chance, regret)
Remington 700 ADL (first deer rifle, killed two spikes and six pt, BIG regrets)
Charter Arms .38 spl ( sold no regrets)
Ruger 10/22 ( gave to my little sister, good cause, goBrood gun)
Winchester 1300 Defender ( bought used @ gander, couldn't feed shells reliably, they couldn't fix it, sold no regrets)
Winchester 94 .30-30 ( stolen by "friend",what do you think?)
Winchester 70 Featherweight .270 (beautiful gun, pawned and lost, I was so stupid, bought new and didn't even mount a scope on it)
Browning SxS 12ga (sold, regret it)
Colt 1911 Govt. (gave to friend for wedding day, and yes it was a tough call)

Well I have learned a very dear lesson as far as selling guns and I will never sell a gun again even if it doesn't work. I am 23 years old and I plan to keep adding guns until I die or they outlaw them.

Well now I need your advice, as normally I scour gun shows and just make spontaneous impulse buys, but I do my research.

I guess my biggest dissapointment thus far is that my rifles are only "hobby" rifles according to some of the more elite members on this site.

Ex:
M1A is looked down upon, as a poor copy of the M14
My Stag and RRA ARs are not mil-spec, so they can't be trusted.
My STG and Saigas aren't real AK pattern guns, just guns marketed and made for American consumers.

I guess I should focus on quality over quantity.

I am in a very bad situation, as I don't have a designated disaster rifle. I have been accumulating magazines but not so much on the ammo though. My nearest rifle range that has at least 100yd range charges per gun and 8.00 a pop, on top of being 26 miles away.

I do have some rifle skills, as I do hunt, and with my 7mm or .25-06, I'm good to about 350yds on a slow moving target. (I know that this doesn't compare to most of you guys on here and that is just midrange shooting) But with plinking and the such, I feel that I have more experience than the average gun owner.

As far as handguns is concerned I am good to go with all but the CZ and the Super Redhawk, as the ammo is scarce and the gun is old. The nearest handgun range is 5 miles away.

What I got planned, I'm going to get a Glock 17 because I like Glocks and the 9mm is affordable. This will be my new carry, practice twice a week gun. The gun and the caliber is both proven.

My next handgun after the politcal climate settles will most likely be a Smith 686+ or one of the eight shot varieties. Handguns aren't as fun to collect to me because their performance can basically be summarized by 3 to 5 calibers. Plus they work so well that there is no need to stockpile them. Besides, rifles first right?

Now for Rifles:

I plan to get (2) Garands, and another M1 Carbine from the CMP.
I know I need a bolt action .308, but I haven't attempted to buy anything bolt action since the presidential nominees were announced.

I would like to get a focus on the disaster needs. My mother is a single parent, have two little sisters, a long term girlfriend and a lot to lose and protect.

My girlfriend is the only person that I can really see using a rifle alongside me, my mother and sisters know how to use guns, but they need to stay out of harms way, they use handguns.

So what is Mil-spec? Something that can survive me shooting 20,000 rds for training purposes and still be up to handle what ever hell can throw at me? If I get those Enhanced bolt carrier groups from LMT, would this make my AR worthy to those who trash the "familiar" brands.

I'm thinking something accurate, light, reliable, and durable. Whatever I choose I will now focus all my attention on and stock up on a hundred or so magazines, about four copies of the rifle and keep a very high supply of ammuntion on hand at all times. This will be accompanied by a Couple Glock 17s and a stockpiling of ammunition and magazines.

My Picks:

Sig 556 (is this good and proven yet?)
Accurate AK, I mean ACCURATE! (suggestions)
Fulton M14 ( they have cast recievers though)
Colt AR-15 (mil-spec RIGHT?)
6.8 Uppers (for my ARs, maybe some manufactuer that makes Mil-spec parts)

This post is not intended to offend, or start a fight. I have followed this website for a long time, I don't post often, because I'm sure that I am outclassed by many of you. I am just confused and am tired of buying TOYS, I need your help to buy GUNS. Thank you very much in advance.

This is my most important post yet, I appreciate your help though.

P.S. I have plenty of food and water.

 

[Eric F]

I guess I should focus on quality over quantity.

Always!

Dude you are all over the place here. Its fun being young with means but get to my age and develope lots of bills and a wife out of work and all the guns in the world cant help.

According to your list you seem to already have a number of guns that can qualify for the apocalyptic situation. Why not just pick a couple and stick to them?

SAVE MONEY NOW FOR LATER!!!!!

Try getting into reloading.

Try something you dont have it might be fun like muzzle loading or pick up a nice sharps and shoot black powder cartridge.

I dont want to talk you out of what your doing but seems to me you already have what your looking for.
Eric F

 

[Golden Hound]

I have never known anyone who looked down on the M1A.

 

[Funderb]

Mauser!

 

[MGshaggy]

I think you've got a great collection there - wish I had that good of a start at age 23. And make no mistake, you've got good guns. Some people have better stuff, but anyone who puts you down for what you have (or don't have) is the same sort of jackass who'd make fun of your wife/girlfriend/S.O. because she isn't a Victoria Secret model. As long as you enjoy what you have, I say the hell with 'em. Besides, despite what some may say you DO have some good stuff.

For an AR15, I think you'd do quite well to build off one of those Stag lowers. They're a good forged lower - not a thing wrong with them and they'll work just as well as a Colt, Bushmaster, LMT. Get a good quality upper with a 5.56 (not 223) chrome lined chamber and bore - the upper is where it really counts. LMT would be a very good choice. Their enhanced bolt looks nice, but isn't really necessary IMO.

You might also consider a PTR91. I've got 3 or 4 (I can't even remember anymore); excellent gun for the money, almost on par with a German HK. You can add a low profile scope mount, a good scope, HK light bipod, carry handle, shell deflector, etc. as you get more funds available.

About the UZi - if its an IMI, you might consider dumping it. Put half the money into a 9mm upper for one of the AR15's to cover the same 9mm carbine niche, and the excess into another gun, some more ammo, a good scope, etc.

I'd also consider sending one (or both) of the Siagas to Tromix for the conversion.

 

[vzenmn]

M1A is looked down upon, as a poor copy of the M14

M1A is junk? I think not. My dad's has worked perfectly ever since he bought it in 99. If you want to see junk you should look at my CAI built M1 Garand.

I guess my biggest dissapointment thus far is that my rifles are only "hobby" rifles according to some of the more elite members on this site.

Here is a little secret. What ever gun you buy no matter how expensive and how much quality and craftsmanship was put in it, there is going to be some wisecrack know it all on the internet that is going to tell you that it is a piece of crap and say how their gun is better. Its the classic my **** is bigger then yours syndrome.

A Saiga, SKS, AR, and M1A will work just fine for the great zombie apocalypse. just pick the one you think will suit you best and put all your money in ammo for it.

I am 22 and own two more guns then you (Though I don't have an M1A and Winchester M1 carbine you lucky son of a biscuit ) and have sold just as many as you. I think you and me are really really deep in this damn addiction.

 

[Texasred]

Well I have reloading equipment and dies just don't have the time for it with school, work, and church.

I appreciate the advice, but I won't sell the Uzi. Its a great conversation piece.

 

[CountGlockula]

A Glock fo'tay!

 

[Eric F]

but I won't sell the Uzi. Its a great conversation piece.

Uh NO! not that line, My brother bought an FAL H-BAR never fired a shot out of it but yet it sits right there on the coffee table as a "conversation piece"

 

[dmxx9900]

I just need an AK,Semi auto pistol in 9mm or .40,and a another pump shotgun in 12 gauge as a extra.Then I am good for emergency
disaster chaos.