What powder for .25 acp?

[Cliff6]

Here ya go!

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...ping&utm_source=ammo-seek&utm_campaign=813763

Thanks for that link. What I would really like is some once fired or new 25 ACP brass though, not loaded ammo.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Thanks for that link. What I would really like is some once fired or new 25 ACP brass though, not loaded ammo.

I'm fairly sure he gave you that link so you can shoot the ammo and then have the once fired cases for reloading since 25 ACP brass is hard to find instock.

 

[Shivahasagun]

I'm fairly sure he gave you that link so you can shoot the ammo and then have the once fired cases for reloading since 25 ACP brass is hard to find instock.

Correct.

 

[P Flados]

Charges for almost all powders will be under 2 gr. I would go for with Bullseye or a ball powder as first choice.

You also want something with load data from the powder maker. I found the following with factory data: Bullseye, WW 231, HP-38, Titegroup.

 

[Blue68f100]

You need a set of scales with the accuracy better than the std ±0.1gr. At a min ±0.02gr. With such a small load window, the error in the scales will kick you out of range. Good luck, trying to measure any thing under 2 gr is a daunting task. Make sure you use check weights in the range you will be loading to confirm accuracy.

 

[Cliff6]

Correct.

You are correct I'm sure. I did understand that, but I really just don't want to pay that price for loaded cartridges to mainly harvest the brass after firing. I may have to, but I was just hoping to find some unloaded brass....and 25 ACP brass seems unobtainable. I do have 65 pieces saved though.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

You also want something with load data from the powder maker.

That leaves out Western Powders (Accurate/Ramshot). No data in v.8 of their online manual.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

You are correct I'm sure. I did understand that, but I really just don't want to pay that price for loaded cartridges to mainly harvest the brass after firing. I may have to, but I was just hoping to find some unloaded brass....and 25 ACP brass seems unobtainable. I do have 65 pieces saved though.

I asked the indoor range where I shoot regularly about .25 and .32 ACP about a year ago - post-plandemic but pre-panic - and was getting quotes in the high $100+/500 pcs. I kindly and gratefully declined but now kinds wish I'd bit that bullet and got some of the .32. At the time I was still seeing loaded ammo prices equal to "once-fired" indoor range brass prices. Not no mo!

 

[noylj]

Personally, I suspect the 25 auto, like 22LR, would do best with a slower powder. VV developed 3N37 specifically for all 22 rimfire cartridges.
I would like to try True Blue myself (high density to weight).

 

[Atavar]

Where are you finding bullets for .25acp?

 

[Cliff6]

Where are you finding bullets for .25acp?

Bear Creek Supply in Waterford, CA

 

[Cliff6]

Bear Creek has a website and they ship.

 

[Atavar]

Yes. Coated lead flat nose and their store is broken.

 

[Cliff6]

Well, their site isn't completed. You can call them. And yes, they only make a coated lead flat nose 25 ACP.

I just tried to look at their site, and yes, it is not working right now. If you leave a message, they will get back to you.

 

[Cliff6]

I'm fine with that for a plinking round.

 

[Darth-Vang]

Okay so went to my local reloading supply store and got these:

 

[Darth-Vang]

I’m trying to look up load data for Accurate #2 but can’t find anything?

 

[Walkalong]

Me either, checked all the old accurate and western PDFs, should work though.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Me either, checked all the old accurate and western PDFs, should work though.

Lyman’s 48th has jacketed data but only for one bullet with Accurate No.2, Hornady 35gr JHP.

 

[Atavar]

If anyone stumbles across some fmj’s let me know.

 

[P Flados]

With a book max of 1.3 grs Bullseye, one pound will load more than 5300 loads.

For many 25 ACP shooters, the above could be real close to a lifetime supply (as long as the pound is only used in 25ACP)

After working with Bullseye, you may want to try the AA 2. Looking at burn rates, AA 2 is not too far from Titegroup and just slower than Bullseye and 700x. Based on the listed charges for these and other powders in 25 ACP and 32ACP, starting at 1.0 gr looks to be safe. Work up in 0.1 gr increments until the fired cases look pretty close to the Bullseye fired cases.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

With a book max of 1.3 grs Bullseye, one pound will load more than 5300 loads.

For many 25 ACP shooters, the above could be real close to a lifetime supply (as long as the pound is only used in 25ACP)

After working with Bullseye, you may want to try the AA 2. Looking at burn rates, AA 2 is not too far from Titegroup and just slower than Bullseye and 700x. Based on the listed charges for these and other powders in 25 ACP and 32ACP, starting at 1.0 gr looks to be safe. Work up in 0.1 gr increments until the fired cases look pretty close to the Bullseye fired cases.

Very good advice. And of course a chronograph would help.

 

[Darth-Vang]

Very good advice. And of course a chronograph would help.

I’ve been wondering about that. Is a chronograph a must have?

 

[P Flados]

A chronograph is generally not required. Some specialty forms of shooting make it more valuable, but the average handloader can do just fine without one. It is just another tool.

 

[Charlie98]

Is a chronograph a must have?

Not necessarily, but it's darned nice to have. Velocity is not the end-all in load development, but it's an important piece of the handloading puzzle. If all you load is target ammo (accuracy based...) or blasting ammo (Minute of Body Cavity) you can likely get away without one... but particularly for rifle I think it is a must have.