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Offshore sources are excellent but subject to a whole other series of possible issues, like tariffs and trade barriers that can be injected arbitrarily.
What To Expect From Ruger/Remington/Marlin
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Offshore sources are excellent but subject to a whole other series of possible issues, like tariffs and trade barriers that can be injected arbitrarily.
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They were certainly still producing right up to the bankruptcy but not at the rates they could have been. I had noticed that some of the less common Remington ammo was not as available around my location and Remington primers were super hard to find because all they were making was going to support what ammo they could make with little to spare for the reloading market. As someone else point out Acadamy seems to have a heap of Remington bulk pack 22LR. The last time I was in my local Acadamy that was the only ammo on the shelf (and one pack of 308 Win). That said I can remember the last time I saw Remington UMC 40S&W or 38 Special.
I think Ruger will look at the models that have sold the best and get those going first. That is what makes sense. That is also their lever guns. There 1895 guide guns, the 1894 models, then the 336. Then a reintroduction of the M39.
I will say this after being a production supervisor for many years. As a reminder, quality control is the function of the build/production people. If each person who is responsible for building the product, does their job correctly you will have a good product. Depending on a single person to look at the end product is a stop gap step and doesn't mean a lot if all that comes off the build line is not done well. In other words Quality Control is only one step in the process of producing a quality product. The goal is to have all people involved to do it right, and do it right the first time. I wish Ruger the Best in bringing the Marlin name products back with a quality affordable product.
I will say this after being a production supervisor for many years. As a reminder, quality control is the function of the build/production people. If each person who is responsible for building the product, does their job correctly you will have a good product. Depending on a single person to look at the end product is a stop gap step and doesn't mean a lot if all that comes off the build line is not done well. In other words Quality Control is only one step in the process of producing a quality product. The goal is to have all people involved to do it right, and do it right the first time. I wish Ruger the Best in bringing the Marlin name products back with a quality affordable product.
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I’d like to see quality and faith reestablished in the Marlin brand.
With that being said I would like to buy a Marlin 1895 SBL in 45-70 and a stainless Model 60.
With that being said I would like to buy a Marlin 1895 SBL in 45-70 and a stainless Model 60.
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JTHunter
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Good grief ! Reading this makes me glad I got a then 20 y.o. Marlin 1894 (JM stamped) in .357 a few years ago !
Plan2Live
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Has anything gone down in price lately?
Ruger has had plenty of time to pull the Marlin website down or break the links and put a page up saying stay tuned or such. Instead, for the most part, the website is running as it has been with the same model selection. That may be telling in that Ruger intends to pick up where Remington left off. But we know, or at least surmise, that Ruger bought Marlin in the affair for the lever guns, not for the .22s and other associated stuff. Still, the Marlin rimfire bolt rifles were excellent in the price range and my (JM complete with crooked stock) 917VS is possibly the most accurate rifle I have ever owned or seen. I hope they are kept on the catalog.
Nope but Ruger has always been high in price. When they started the American rifles they cost more than a savage axis and IMO feel about twice more junky than an axis. Bolt guns are more than a rem 700 and I don’t see any quality difference.
I bet whoever was running marlin during the remlin days never spent the money it would take to make truly nice guns. I'll put my JM up against any of them. Even IF it was made on old machines.
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The rimnfire 60 beats the 10/22 every day and then some. Adult sized stock, larger magazine and longer barrel - and I have both
absolutely correct, a machine leaking oil, whining, with a good operator will always produce a better product than a precision CNC in the hands of a guy who really doesn't care. My understanding was the machines were old, worn, leaking, but motors turned, the chucks were tight -obviously from the quality of the cheapest JM's-and the cutters were good, and the machinists knew the machine. I get you don't have to know a CNC, but you at least have to know when a cutter is worn, the machine isn't quite right, or the workpiece is not tight. Thats all I can conclude form seeing the supposedly CNC built remlins. Looked more like machine shop students building on conventional mills -okay, usually works, but not what it should be. I'm right with you, my JM 1894 was built very late in the factory's history, and is excellent. the best Remlins are just okay.
mcb
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Got to disagree, the 10/22 is the AR of the rimfire world. Very modular and can be modified and tuned up for many many more tasks/uses than a Model 60.
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Not saying the 10/22 isn't more popular in the last few decades or has more accessories; doesn't make it better or more accurate. I see folks bragging all the time about how great their 10/22 is; and then you find out the only original thing left is the receiver shell- every other single component was replaced to make it accurate. If someone is going to pony all that extra cash, one might as well buy an Anschutz and be done with it
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If only Ruger would make upgraded versions of the 10/22 carbine, then Ruger could take a chunk of the Marlin 60 market away from Marlin to put them out of business, so Ruger could buy them out and . . . wait a minute . . .
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Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't change the fact it is still a pig. The 10/22 is great for little kids with the standard stock. I found a decent velocity difference between the two over a chrono as well.If only Ruger would make upgraded versions of the 10/22 carbine, then Ruger could take a chunk of the Marlin 60 market away from Marlin to put them out of business, so Ruger could buy them out and . . . wait a minute . . .
chicharrones
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Probably ought to get another Marlin 60 while you can, then. Hard to tell if the 60 will have the same fate as the 39 or not.
BTW, I spent my teens and 20s shootin' a Marlin 60 and a Ruger 10/22 Carbine and I can't remember enough difference about them to tell anymore. Anyway, I moved away from both of them as auto loading rimfire rifles just don't appeal to me for whatever reason. Give me a bolt or a lever rimfire and I'm happy.
I have to admit, the Marlin/Glenfield 75 with shorter barrel and fully covered magazine tube really, really appealed to me. A local shop here had one for a few months this fall, but I resisted temptation and someone else got it. Good for them.
Looking at all of this has reminded me that the 1970s production Marlin 60 I used had the old 22" long barrel. I've never fired a more currently made 60 with a 19" barrel.
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JTHunter
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The Marlin I use most is an 881 bolt action and it puts my 10/22 to shame in terms of accuracy. I have shot a Model 60 and am inclined to agree with you but I dislike its tubular stock. That is the main thing about the 10/22 that I do like - the magazines, esp. the aftermarket ones(I have some 30 & 50 rd. mags).
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What you say is true but George P was most likely talking of a stock gun, as I was too. IIRC, the Model 60 is usually available at a slightly lower price than a stock 10/22 carbine (the one with the barrel band on the fore-end). With the aftermarket add-ons (trigger group & barrel), your cost can easily double the price of a 10/22.
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No way. The 60 has a junk trigger and is much harder to disassemble to service than the Ruger. And the Ruger can take a 25 round magazine and there is far more aftermarket. The 60 is a decent enough gun (with a junk trigger) but it is not the equal of a 10/22.
mcb
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But I can buy a factory 10/22 with a variety of barrel options, upgraded trigger, a huge variety of stocks, takedown versions, pistol versions etc. And we haven't even gotten to the huge aftermarket that is available.
The model 60 came in steel or stainless and a small selection of stock materials but were otherwise all configured nearly identically.
Like I said the 10/22 is the AR of the twenty-two market. The ability to configure to your liking and use is a huge upside.
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