DontBurnMyFlag
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its the one on the bottom row, second from the right. It looks like a thompson without a pistol grip. except the sights are different along with just about everything else.
What type of gun is this?
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Yeah, that's a Reising gun. The Marines had some of them during the early part of WW2, before they figured out that the
reising was a little too dirt/sand sensitive for combat.
Don in Ohio
ETA- The shirtless guy in the back row seems to have one also. Possibly these guys are Marine Raiders, hence the guy in the cammo outfit.
reising was a little too dirt/sand sensitive for combat.
Don in Ohio
ETA- The shirtless guy in the back row seems to have one also. Possibly these guys are Marine Raiders, hence the guy in the cammo outfit.
Sylvilagus Aquaticus
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It's likely a Model 50 or 55 Riesing, made by Harrington and Richardson (our old friend H&R), a .45 ACP FA carbine that mostly saw service guarding railroad trestles in the CONUS. The Marines didn't like them much, as they had a propensity to rust quickly in the Pacific theater. Post-war, some were distributed to police departments and other local LE agencies. IIRC, Numrich/E-Gunparts had some semiauto models for sale as late as the 1980's and they also have parts available.
The uniform is Pacific Theater Marine camo.
Man, what I'd give for one of those original long Garand bayonets with a scabbard...
Regards,
Rabbit.
The uniform is Pacific Theater Marine camo.
Man, what I'd give for one of those original long Garand bayonets with a scabbard...
Regards,
Rabbit.
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fella in the top right has one too, don't he?
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it is Reising and there are some transferable machine guns around in the NFA registry.
Chipperman
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I fired a Reising once. Pretty cool, but the Thompson is a MUCH better design.
Interestingly, the Reising fires from a closed bolt, unlike the Thompson. The Reising trigger mechanism is pretty complicated, and part of the reason it did not fare well in a combat environment.
Interestingly, the Reising fires from a closed bolt, unlike the Thompson. The Reising trigger mechanism is pretty complicated, and part of the reason it did not fare well in a combat environment.
Selfdfenz
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Exactly what I thought.
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If you ask me, I'd say the guy 2nd from left in bottom row is Filipino. That's just a semi-educated guess though.
vis35
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It is a Reising Model 55, it had a wire folding stock, and if you look at the way his right hand is lying he could not hold the M50 that way, the pistol grip on the M55 is more vertical and his hand is wrapped around it, and the M50 had a conventional full length wood stock.
Civilian shooters and police departments have been satisfied with the Reising’s over the years, likely because they have the time to baby them.
I also think he looks like a Navajo. In fact I saw some film footage of the Navajo Codetalkers on TV last night, one of them had a Reising M55!
Civilian shooters and police departments have been satisfied with the Reising’s over the years, likely because they have the time to baby them.
I also think he looks like a Navajo. In fact I saw some film footage of the Navajo Codetalkers on TV last night, one of them had a Reising M55!
Sunray
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Yep, it's a Reising. And the bayonet is the '03 bayonet. Both were used early in W.W. II. I'd have argued about the use of 16" bayonets on Garands until I saw some real combat footage on TV.
The Reising was odd in that its parts were hand fitted to each smg in the factory. No mixing of the parts between weapons. That's why they were no good for wartime use. The op handle is in the forestock too. Not exactly handy for quick use.
Long ago, at the Second Chance shoot, Reisings were used for the PEE(Premature Ejactulation Event) shoot. Use your own SMG or a provided smg and ammo. The provided smg was a Reising the last time I shot the event. One 20 round mag against moving and timed falling IPSC targets and one mag using one trigger pull at a row of bowling pins. Not heavy and no felt recoil. Great fun. Plaxco won it repeatedly with his own Thompson SMG.
Some guy offered to help clean the Reisings not knowing he couldn't mix the parts. Jamming was a common thing the next day.
The Reising was odd in that its parts were hand fitted to each smg in the factory. No mixing of the parts between weapons. That's why they were no good for wartime use. The op handle is in the forestock too. Not exactly handy for quick use.
Long ago, at the Second Chance shoot, Reisings were used for the PEE(Premature Ejactulation Event) shoot. Use your own SMG or a provided smg and ammo. The provided smg was a Reising the last time I shot the event. One 20 round mag against moving and timed falling IPSC targets and one mag using one trigger pull at a row of bowling pins. Not heavy and no felt recoil. Great fun. Plaxco won it repeatedly with his own Thompson SMG.
Some guy offered to help clean the Reisings not knowing he couldn't mix the parts. Jamming was a common thing the next day.
SilentScream
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model 1905 15.5in. sword bayonet
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Looking closer I notice the SLEEVES on the guy in the bottom row 2nd from left are cut off and have ragged edges. The rest are all long. I doubt a Marine would be allowed to wear his uniform in that manner which tends to lead me away from the Code Talker theory. Just mho of course.
Side note:
I had an uncle who fought in such places as New Guinea. I have some pix and a coconut carved and painted to look like a GI to prove it. As he was reaching the end of his life dementia had set in. We were at his brother's (my grandfather's) funeral and during the wake and a Fiipino Priest walked in to perform the service. My uncle sees him and immediately starts with, "What's that
NIP doing in here. GET THAT NIP OUT OF HERE! NIP!" Fortunately I had been in the same theatre during my service and can tell the difference between Filipino and Japanese people. I went up to him and said, "Uncle Malley, he's Filipino."
My uncle says, "He's Filipino? OH, HE"S OK."
He may have been seriously demented BUT HE REMEMBERED WHO HIS ALLIES WERE! Still brings a tear to my eye for some reason.
Side note:
I had an uncle who fought in such places as New Guinea. I have some pix and a coconut carved and painted to look like a GI to prove it. As he was reaching the end of his life dementia had set in. We were at his brother's (my grandfather's) funeral and during the wake and a Fiipino Priest walked in to perform the service. My uncle sees him and immediately starts with, "What's that
NIP doing in here. GET THAT NIP OUT OF HERE! NIP!" Fortunately I had been in the same theatre during my service and can tell the difference between Filipino and Japanese people. I went up to him and said, "Uncle Malley, he's Filipino." My uncle says, "He's Filipino? OH, HE"S OK."
He may have been seriously demented BUT HE REMEMBERED WHO HIS ALLIES WERE! Still brings a tear to my eye for some reason.
db_tanker
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Could have been one of the groups that were stuck on the Phillipines or other islands in the Pacific and went guerrilla. But some of the individuals do look Fillipino or Guamanian.
DontBurnMyFlag...where you find the photo?
Darrell
DontBurnMyFlag...where you find the photo?
Darrell
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I'm starting to think bottom row far left is at least part Japanese. Translator maybe? Maybe Japanese American? Then Third from left also looks Asiatic.But he has USMC on his pocket.
I'd love to know the history of this group. I'd bet it's a good one.
I'd love to know the history of this group. I'd bet it's a good one.
MikeB
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Possibly members of Wendell Fertig's troops?
Warbow
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If you open the image in its own URL, it's part of an HTML school-type lesson assignment on Navajo code talkers:
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sfulton/codetalkers/introduction.htm
The photo is under the "Task I" link at the bottom.
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sfulton/codetalkers/introduction.htm
The photo is under the "Task I" link at the bottom.
280PLUS
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I love the "kid" top row far right. Can you say "youthful bravado"...
"If you open the image in its own URL, it's part of an HTML school-type lesson assignment on Navajo code talkers:
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sfult...ntroduction.htm
The photo is under the "Task I" link at the bottom."
Thanks Warbow. I thought it probably was Codetalkers.
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sfult...ntroduction.htm
The photo is under the "Task I" link at the bottom."
Thanks Warbow. I thought it probably was Codetalkers.
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