What's all the fuss over "Cam Over"?

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I have learned a lot from various threads on this forum. I believe that the tone is generally educational and that egos are not always at the top of the priority list...

Sometimes it reminds me of sitting around a fire, where the arguments would continue long after dark, until

  • There wasn't any more firewood
  • There wasn't any more whiskey
  • Nobody could remember what we were talking about

I couldn't find the original author, but when I searched for this cartoon, I got over 5,000,000 hits -

Someone is wrong on the Internet

Based on the number of teenagers having trouble with social media, we should all be careful. The government might come along and regulate the Internet just to make sure nobody gets their feelings hurt. :)
 
I like technical reading. I like to lean things even if I'm not going to put it into practice. If that is how cam over is explained then my press doesn't cam over but the linkage does do what I would call cam over. The ram doesn't come back down but the after it reaches the point of the most pressure the linkage just tarts to lower its pressure & does what you call jams against the stops.
 
fguffey didn't invent the reloading press or invent cartridge headspace and when that soaks in and he stops his condescending manor he "might" be excepted into the "worth reading" category. To the average person reading these postings you have no idea what is truth, what is fabricated myth or ego generated hype.

Right now at Castboolits.com there is a person handing out information and he doesn't cast bullets or even have a reloading press. He sits in front of the computer reading other peoples postings and then justs repeats what he reads in another forum.

Read your reloading manuals and cross reference what you read here with factual printed information until you learn who you can trust in these forums.

When the press handle is in the down position it ain't going any further no matter what you call it, and many of you need to learn how to "ADJUST" your dies for minimum full length resizing where the die never touches the shell holder.


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I thought he was being well mannered considering how he has been put down. Thing maybe he looks at it like I do. I don't know any of you & could care less what you think. I just like to give back & teach others where I can. I agree he has a high opinion but he isn't blowing smoke.

I think highly of a lot of people on this form but don't always agree with them. This form used to be much more pleasant. I'm sure it will be again because the people that make the stink normally move along to cause trouble somewhere else eventually.
 
If the case chambers with just 'bumping' what difference dose it make.

I chack cases in a Wilson Case Gage and when properly sized they go blooop when dropped into it. If they need a little 'bump' I dont get the blooop, just drops into the gage.
 
kingmt

fguffey's postings and comments were not well received at accurateshooter.com by the competitive shooters with expensive reloading equipment and bug size groups. The people at accurateshooter.com know BS when they see it kingmt and you need to become more worldly and less gullible in the reloading world. In closing kingmt I'm not the only one here tired of postings that read like "War and Peace' written in Greek while the author pats himself on the back.

Bigedp51
Graduate of the Attila the Hun School of Diplomacy :rolleyes:
 
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I don't have an attitude but I do get heart burn and indigestion from reading some of these postings.

Sounds to me like it would be more healthy for you to not read some of these postings.

How do you feel when you read posts over at that accurateshooter place?

Seedtick

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Seedtick

fguffey once told me a .308 case wouldn't fit in a 30-06 chamber :eek:

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fguffey said the above photos were a lie, so sometimes I get a little heartburn and indigestion with BS and people who don't know what they are talking about.
 
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Five pages and 2,012 viewing hits on how to pull a handle on a reloading press and you want to close down this "educational posting". :eek:

What would happen if a few people just read their reloading manuals?
 
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No that's five pages about how to pull the handle on a reloading press "the right way"

Any simpelton or half trained primate can pull the handle. It takes years of study as an apprentice under an enlightened master to pull that handle most artfully and with great purpose.

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I still don't see a need to lock it but I also don't see where much useful info can be added so it wouldn't matter. It does look bad on our part tho.

My last statement didn't come out right ether. Even tho no one called me on it I'm sorry about the way it sounded. It isn't directed to anyone & I don't want anyone to leave. Hate to see anyone put down. I've told fguffey the same in other threads.

I try every day to become less worldly & I'm a well rounded person I can tell when people are blowing smoke. He does pat himself on the back, so do you, myself, & most others on here at times. The old timers in these threads have good information to put out & we do like helping others. I haven't been here as long as RC & I'm sure Walkalong, bds, & 243Win have been here longer. Us & the others are here because we fell we have something to give back as well as learn something new from time to time.

We don't have to agree to talk about things. It makes it easier to learn without argueing.
 
Just as a general observation: I have just seen a forum that has a shotshell reloading forum ban 4-5 interesting contributors for questioning a moderator. This forum is the property of a for profit outfit with an agenda. The Moderator has one also. I have decided that it is too PC for me to continue participating there.
Debate is healthy and stimulating if it continues to evolve with more information supporting each point of view.
 
Debate is healthy and stimulating if it continues to evolve with more information supporting each point of view

I don't see the debate here. Or the merit of claiming that presses don't cam over.
 
I was at the range yesterday testing my reloads.

I have determined that my ammo is way better than the factory stuff I have on hand. Here I thought it was me sucking.
 
I spent another two hours trying to get my flux capacitor to work so I could get my 45 min back. Didn't work quite right, so now I'm out 2hrs and 45 min.:banghead:
I did get rid of any mice in the neighborhood though.:uhoh:
 
Just switch your flux capacitor over to a 302 cam over engine & you can make that time up fast.
 
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