What's most important?
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Proper mindset trumps everything else. Skill without a strong will to live will lose just about everytime to someone who realizes the stakes involved and acts accordingly.
Gear without knowledge is nothing.
Gear without knowledge is nothing.
They're all equally important, to the extent that if you lack one element, no amount of any of the others will help (possible exception of gear - a lack of gear will just be a crippling and usually insurmountable handicap.)
Skill, both at arms and in the sense of physical culture, is the most difficult to acquire of all the elements. To that extent (the extent of, "What should I spend the most time practicing?") skill is the most important element. Then tactics, then mindset.
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Skill, both at arms and in the sense of physical culture, is the most difficult to acquire of all the elements. To that extent (the extent of, "What should I spend the most time practicing?") skill is the most important element. Then tactics, then mindset.
- Chris
The last time I was in a fight was grade school. At the time I had no gear or tactics, and hardly any skill. So I voted for warrior mindset. 
Gear is almost always required, but cannot be used without skill. Skill and gear with no tactics is dead in the water. And without the warrior mindset, they are all useless.
Not knowing what to vote for, I chose warrior mindset because that is what all the rest hinges on.
Not knowing what to vote for, I chose warrior mindset because that is what all the rest hinges on.
Warrior mindset is what motivates you to get all the rest, and what lets you use them effectively when needed. Definitely that one.
Will to live = Warrior mindset
Even some of the most basic creatures of the earth get this (well, its hard wired in).
Humans are the only ones that intentionally go against this very natural instinct even
when there are viable options available to assist them in the fight.
Skill, gear, and tactics mean nothing without the will to use them (Warrior mindset).
Even the most bumbling, undisciplined, schlep can get lucky with a sharpened 89 cent
pencil if he is willing to fight.
Even some of the most basic creatures of the earth get this (well, its hard wired in).
Humans are the only ones that intentionally go against this very natural instinct even
when there are viable options available to assist them in the fight.
Skill, gear, and tactics mean nothing without the will to use them (Warrior mindset).
Even the most bumbling, undisciplined, schlep can get lucky with a sharpened 89 cent
pencil if he is willing to fight.
You guys should read Richard Marcinko. There is one man you never want to piss off, he'll rip your testicles off while you sleep. He's a bad, bad, BAD man. My favorite story was about how he was hired to do a security review of an Army base, so he infiltrated the highly secure Army base, and stole the two star commanding generals two rottweilers instead of writing a report figuring the general would figure it out. The guy was seriously nuts, collecting NV ears while in vietnam- every kill added another set of ears to his collection bag. Marcinko made it all the way up, to commanding officer of a SEAL unit. If I ever go to war, I hope it's never up against someone like him.
Yeah, Ferrari, that's what he says about himself - and don't forget he did a stretch of jail time too . . .
The poll leaves out one essential element - LUCK! You can have all the skills, weaponcraft and tools in the world, and one bit of bad luck can put you down and out. I've been in too many real-life gunfights to think that I can get out of a bad situation solely on the basis of the elements listed. Sometimes a hefty dose of good fortune is needed, too.
The poll leaves out one essential element - LUCK! You can have all the skills, weaponcraft and tools in the world, and one bit of bad luck can put you down and out. I've been in too many real-life gunfights to think that I can get out of a bad situation solely on the basis of the elements listed. Sometimes a hefty dose of good fortune is needed, too.
I got Rouge Warrior as a gift a couple years back. I could not put it down. I highly recommend it as a great read!
You are right Preacherman...Preacherman said:
Too bad that is the Only Element we have No Control over...
Skill, Mindset (I would prefer to call it Survivor Mindset rather than Warrior Mindset), and Gear are the three legs on which survival rests. The structure is only as strong as its weakest leg.
I don't know what 'Tactics' are except the correct assessment and judicious application of Skills; the creative, appropriate use of Gear; and the outworking of the Survivor Mindset.
I don't know what 'Tactics' are except the correct assessment and judicious application of Skills; the creative, appropriate use of Gear; and the outworking of the Survivor Mindset.
I belive it is rightly refered to as warrior mindset. No matter what in the end we are talking about brining the fight to the person agressing against us, and using whatever means nesscary to dominate the situation and win.
Surviving implies just squeaking buy. You can loose the fight and still survive. You can do nothing sometimes and still survive.
tactics: 1 : a device for accomplishing an end.
You have to have tactics to be able to sucessfully utlize your skill and gear. I think a simple example of a tactic would be a failure drill.
I was thinking of this when I made the poll. However we've got zero control over it. There is no way to train it. So I left it out.
Preacherman is right again. (I think I detect a pattern there.)
Some events you truly have no control over and it's just luck. Sometimes though you can make your own luck, usually by being prepared.
Whenever one of his officers was up for promotion, Napoleon used to review his qualifications, but then ask "yes, but is he lucky?"
(Just as an aside, when Genghis Khan needed a new Captain, he'd throw two Lieutenants in a pit with one knife.
)Where is the choice for "all of the above"? IMHO, any one of these by itself is probably not going to be enough without the rest of them being included to some degree. Other than that, it'll be more like blind luck that gets you through whatever the situation is.
Skill
Skill is not obtained without a warrior mindset in the first place. You can have the latter but without skill you will get taken everytime unless you are plain lucky.
Skill includes adapting and overcoming.
Like Mikey said... "Everyone has a plan until they get hit!"
Skill takes the hit and adapts to the situation. "Warrior mindset" takes the hit and starts swinging like a girl because it has no skill to use as a conduit for that strong will.
Skill is not obtained without a warrior mindset in the first place. You can have the latter but without skill you will get taken everytime unless you are plain lucky.
Skill includes adapting and overcoming.
Like Mikey said... "Everyone has a plan until they get hit!"
Skill takes the hit and adapts to the situation. "Warrior mindset" takes the hit and starts swinging like a girl because it has no skill to use as a conduit for that strong will.
The ability to deploy - what I call violence of action.
What I mean is in any fight , the most aggressive use of action (properly) will always win, excluding just plain luck.
Warrior Mindset
All four together would provide the best outcome, but the warrior mindset is the most necassary IMO. All the gear, tactics, and training in the world won't help without the will to use it. On the other hand, think about the ex-marine that killed one attacker and wounded and drove off two others with a pocket Knife. He had probably had the training and tactics, but no one can say a pocket knife is the proper gear.
All four together would provide the best outcome, but the warrior mindset is the most necassary IMO. All the gear, tactics, and training in the world won't help without the will to use it. On the other hand, think about the ex-marine that killed one attacker and wounded and drove off two others with a pocket Knife. He had probably had the training and tactics, but no one can say a pocket knife is the proper gear.
I have to side with someone who really knows: "Attitude without technique beats technique without attitude. Attitude with technique is unbeatable."
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