What's the Diff!?

[Hoshua1]

I found the "Survivor" rifle on the Harrington & Richards site which I got to from the Marlin site. Pretty awesome little piece with a bull barrel. Reminisant of the Encore or Contender but more industrial. It's almost a takedown in a way. And, it'll throw down in .308. Anyway, I have found the New England and Rossi rifles to be seemingly identical rifles in their respective picture galleries but that can't be? Rossi does more matched barrel sets which is cool but but in todays age web pages speak volumes and I feel like a major manufacturer could afford a better presentation. So whose on first? The gun directory at guns and ammo dot com lists a New England Firearms "Survivor" so... H&R, New Eng or Rossi. Same rifles, different barrels, different distributers? I'm after the sturdiest one that adapts with any of those pistol grip synth stox.

Happy holidays everyone. Stay safe. Out here in WA the trees are falling down and the streets are all frozen. Lot's of power outages too. We just had a dang snow storm which threw a lot of school bus drivers into trouble with so many hills. Anyway, there are lots of nervous drivers out there so give the trucks/vans a little room and be patient.

 

[mnrivrat]

While I can't speak volumes as to the differences between the Rossi and the H&R (NEF) guns , I can make a comment or two.

I have owned and shot a couple of the H&R handy rifle guns and have found them to be of good quality with top notch accuracy. I too have the survivor model in my sites for a future purchase and I am trying to decide on the .308 or the .223 version.

I took a look at the Rossi guns a few months back at a local Gander Mountain store. I was not impressed at the fit and finish , but what realy surprised me is the bore on the .223 I looked at was extremely rusty. This being a new gun I was a bit shocked at seeing a bore that looked like it had been firing corrosive ammo ,and it was a struggle to see any rifling !!

Perhaps I picked up the wrong one, but several guns I looked at were no better in fit and finish on the outside so I didn't think I wanted to waste my time or money on them. I guess the message I have would be to take a close look at the Rossi before buying one,and to lean toward the H&R/NEF guns if overall quality is worth the price difference for you.

 

[Hoshua1]

I like the H&R

The point is I always did. I reasd a lot of iffy customer reports complaining of accuracy issues and that mess just doesn't fly with me. Below average performance isn't ever worth the money. That's like buying bald tires. We'll see. There were a lot of happy shooters too. My Q now is about the choate varmint and survivor stox. Which one? How much do they weigh? Has one shown better stability? They must attach the same way, to the rifle that is. Doesn't ATI make a stock like that? (not the 6 pos.) Thanx

 

[rangerruck]

rossi is not h/r and nef. nef and h/r are the same now, all owned by marlin.
now rossi is interesting, because they have a safety, and the others don't. it also has adjustable sites, the others don't. also you can get as many bbls for your h/r nef as you want, just have to send in the receiver, so they can mate a bbl up to it. the big prob with rossi, and I don't know if they ever corrected this, was that the bbl metal was , 'soft', that is to say, their heat treating process, is lacking, or non existent. so you could not put up several shots in a row, without your impact shifting, due to the heating bbl. you don't get this with the others, but if you are going to use it as a hunting rifle, and not a target/bench shooter, then the rossi will be fine.